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Canadian Figure Skaters Get Gold, Russians Furious
Yahoo ^ | 2/15/02 | Adrian Warner

Posted on 02/15/2002 11:42:28 AM PST by The_Victor

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"The council got enough evidence that this individual was responsible for misconduct. They (the skaters) were not judged equally."

Cinquanta said le Gougne had "practically admitted" she had been put under pressure during a meeting at which the American referee Ron Pfenning had been present. Earlier this week, Cinquanta said Pfenning had handed him a letter containing "certain allegations".

He added if a judge received pressure at any time the referee had to be informed.

RUSSIANS FURIOUS

"This did not happen in the case of Mrs. Le Gougne," Cinquanta said.

He said a council meeting on Monday would decide how long the suspension would last.

Pelletier and Sale told Canadian television after the announcement that justice had been done.

"Everyone knows what we deserve and we know what we deserve and we are taking that home with us and that's all that matters," Sale said.

"This is not about us and the Russians, this is about the sport we love dearly and justice was done, and that is a good feeling," said Pelletier.

"I hope it's not going to stop the cleaning of (figure skating's) house here," he added.

Sale said: "We just want the truth to come out and I think for the future of our sport this had to be fixed."

The Russian team reacted furiously to Friday's decision, describing it as a huge blow to the Olympic spirit.

Russian Olympic Committee official Rudolf Nezvegsky told Reuters: "By doing this, they just struck a huge blow, not only to the Olympic spirit of fair competition but also to the whole nature of sport.

"It went against any moral and ethical norms that exist in sport where athletes, not lawyers, compete against each other on the slopes and in the sports arenas and not in back rooms," Nezvegsky said.

"Mr Rogge, who has just become IOC president, probably does not understand what he has done for the sports movement for future Olympic Games (news - web sites)," Nezvegsky added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: Serge
"Might without mind" is the characterictic of typical bully.

Is that what was said when the Romanov's were exterminated?

81 posted on 02/15/2002 12:35:36 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Scruffdog;fred mertz
Oh, OK..yawn....hey Ethel, what time does luge come on?

Why are YOU watching the olympics with freds' wife???

FMCDH

82 posted on 02/15/2002 12:36:51 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: Lent
The precedent should be that if you attempt to corrupt the judging there will be a price to be paid. Sounds like a good precedent to me.

It certainly should be, but it's apparently not so in skating. The judges that were caught "tapping their feet" to signal each other and "suspended" were judging internation competitions within months of their suspension. Contrast that to the case of baseball and Pete Rose.

83 posted on 02/15/2002 12:37:08 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Utah Girl
Listen to the comments by the coach of the Russian pairs figure skaters. I think she's been hitting the vodka bottle a bit hard lately...

Methinks she doth protest too much.

84 posted on 02/15/2002 12:39:12 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Serge
Someone especially woman told something under pressure later revoked isn't very convincing for me.

don't have dale carnagie over there, do ya.

85 posted on 02/15/2002 12:39:25 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: The_Victor
High comedy. :) If someone takes a whack at Jamie Sale's leg (not that I'd mind doing that myself...) with a pipe, THEN things officially leave earth orbit. ;)
86 posted on 02/15/2002 12:43:11 PM PST by TheBigB
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To: Serge
Serge, Serge, Serge. The facts have been uncovered. You can't seriously be defending this corruption in the judging process. Just be lucky you Russkies can also have the gold.
87 posted on 02/15/2002 12:43:28 PM PST by Lent
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To: Snuffington
I think that it would have been fairer and less controversial if they would have just thrown out the scores that the french judge gave and used only the remaining scores to determine the winner. Since only the french judge has so far been proven corrupt, her scores should not count for anything.

Her scores may have even affected the winner of the bronze as well as the silver. If she deliberately rated all other expected contenders for the gold lower that they deserved, she cheated them also

Another possibility would be to bring in another truly independant judge unrelated and unallied to either Russia or Canada to review and judge films of the performances if such films exist. If that is done, then truly only the performances done that night would reflect who truly has won the medal.

In the Canadians case, they truly deserved the medal while in the Russians case, there is and always will be doubt.

In so far as to which program was simpler or more demanding, If the Canadians correctly performed the movements that the Russians faltered on, the Russians have nothing to say about who was more deserving.

88 posted on 02/15/2002 12:44:49 PM PST by dglang
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To: The_Victor
Olympic spirit of fair competition

OH this is classic. The Russians are really grasping here.

89 posted on 02/15/2002 12:44:58 PM PST by kassie
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To: The_Victor
GREAT! so I have heard for two straight hours of news conferences today (preempting the game coverage) I am so happy for them ...now can we please get back to the Games !!!
90 posted on 02/15/2002 12:45:16 PM PST by arly
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To: hawaiian
You don't have the right attitude. Shame on you. Hahahahahahaha. Oops, I let go.
91 posted on 02/15/2002 12:45:43 PM PST by Chemnitz
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The mostly American audience gave the Russian gold and silver men's singles medal winners an enthusiastic standing ovation in appreciation for the great job they did last night.

Can anyone explain why the Finnish judge gave the young Russian skater who followed Tim (yea for the bronze!) a 10th place ranking, far below the other judges' scores? He was robbed of 5th place. (^:

92 posted on 02/15/2002 12:45:58 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: cajungirl; Utah girl
Utah Girl has been starting the Olympic threads. I believe she is out for the evening. If she is, then I would be happy to host a live thread.
93 posted on 02/15/2002 12:47:36 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: The_Victor
"Who the heck needs daytime soap operas."

Who needs the silly, globalist-socialist spectacle that they call, mistakenly, the olympics?

94 posted on 02/15/2002 12:49:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: dglang
I think that it would have been fairer and less controversial if they would have just thrown out the scores that the french judge gave and used only the remaining scores to determine the winner.

That *is* what they did. It resulted in a 4-4 tie, thus the duplicate golds.

95 posted on 02/15/2002 12:50:59 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Serge
I don't know where you get your news,but maybe you should turn the sound up,or actually read the words. The French JUDGE has admitted wrongdoing! It has nothing to do with the skaters!!GROW UP!
96 posted on 02/15/2002 12:52:17 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Can anyone explain why the Finnish judge gave the young Russian skater who followed Tim (yea for the bronze!) a 10th place ranking, far below the other judges' scores? He was robbed of 5th place.

Good question. The Finnish judge was completely off kilter with the other judges at several points.

97 posted on 02/15/2002 12:52:57 PM PST by Exigence
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To: GOP_Lady
Let us all say it together...FIGURE SKATING IS NOT A SPORT. Any competition that needs judges to determine the outcome should be banished from the Olympic Games. Thank you and goodnight.
98 posted on 02/15/2002 12:54:17 PM PST by Weimdog
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To: The_Victor
"The Russian team reacted furiously to Friday's decision, describing it as a huge blow to the Olympic spirit."

The "spirit" of the olympics has been corrupted for a long time and in Salt Lake it began before the city was selected!

99 posted on 02/15/2002 12:54:48 PM PST by patriot_wes
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To: Serge
Now there are talks that gold medal given to canadians is result of that nonsport pressure.

So what? *All* of that "talk" is coming from the Russians. Consider the source.

What did you expect them to say? That they *had* pressured the judge and were very sorry? Is hell freezing over?

Serge. Interesting posting name. Russian, by chance?

100 posted on 02/15/2002 12:55:50 PM PST by Exigence
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