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Posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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Elen sila lumenn omentielvo, a star shines upon the hour of our meeting

Our story begins:

Fellowship of the Ring

PROLOGUE – Concerning Hobbits and other matters

We begin our story in the year 1401, according to the Shire reckoning, 59 years after Bilbo returns home from the adventure recounted in The Hobbit. Some history and events concerning hobbits and their habits are told in the Prologue. I think many would agree with my humble opinion that to fully adore our hobbits and their character, you cannot skip The Hobbit.

BOOK 1
Chapter I – A Long-Expected Party

When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton.

Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, and had been the wonder of the Shire for sixty years, ever since his remarkable disappearance and unexpected return. The riches he had brought back from his travels had now become a local legend, and it was popularly believed, whatever the old folk might say, that the Hill at Bag End was full of tunnels stuffed with treasure. And if that was not enough for fame, there was also his prolonged vigour to marvel at. Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved; but unchanged would have been nearer the mark. There were some that shook their heads and thought this was too much of a good thing; it seemed unfair that anyone should possess (apparently) perpetual youth as well as (reputedly) inexhaustible wealth.

“It will have to be paid for,” they said. “It isn’t natural, and trouble will come of it!”…


1 posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2JedisMom;BibChr;Blue Eyes;Carolina;Carton253;curiouskiwi;Ecurbh;JenB;John Farson...
OK Gang…. I trust we have all done our first homework? If not - read up and report back! This is where we grab a blanket and a mug and settle into our chair. Who are these hobbits and what is Tolkien telling us about them in this first chapter?

Here are some Movie pictures - Chapter I

2 posted on 02/15/2002 7:02:21 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Whooo-hoo! We're ready for business!

I see the first chapter as providing background into the character of hobbits. They may be "tough as dragons in a pinch" but they don't like being put in pinches. They like getting proper meals and smoking pipeweed without Big Folk bothering them.

So when our heroes have to go on their adventure, we know that this is not the way things usually are for hobbits, and it makes what they do all the more impressive.

Also, this chapter is mostly light-hearted, but there are a few moments where the new, darker tone of the book creeps through, like when Bilbo doesn't want to give away the Ring. This is also to clue us in that there's something odd here, as readers of The Hobbit will find Bilbo's behavior very odd.

3 posted on 02/15/2002 7:07:10 AM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
All right! Thanks for starting this!

OK, I'll stick in my two cents...one thing I've always loved about the first chapter is how it is, to pretty great extent, written from the hobbits' perspective. We really get a feel for how they like their comfort, their familiar country, and how by nature they dislike change and "adventure". It sets up the next part of the story, so that in a way, we are, like Gandalf, surprised at how quickly they can make up their minds and act when they really need to.

4 posted on 02/15/2002 7:13:35 AM PST by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog
Excellent! Would it be improper for the ladies to join the gents at the pub and indulge in a pint as well? If not, then count me in!
5 posted on 02/15/2002 7:14:21 AM PST by sneakers
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To: sneakers
Ladies welcome, in fact, we outnumber the gents!
6 posted on 02/15/2002 7:15:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Here is a very nice Map of the Shire

Here is where it came from

7 posted on 02/15/2002 7:16:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: sneakers
"It comes in pints??"
8 posted on 02/15/2002 7:18:39 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: *Tolkien
Indexing The Green Dragon Inn
9 posted on 02/15/2002 7:21:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
bump.
10 posted on 02/15/2002 7:22:07 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HairOfTheDog
another useful site

Most excellent idea! Who do I beg/badger/cajole to be put on a ping list, if one exists????

11 posted on 02/15/2002 7:22:33 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Consider yourself "on the list"!
12 posted on 02/15/2002 7:24:43 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: sneakers
Would it be improper for the ladies to join the gents at the pub and indulge in a pint as well? If not, then count me in!

Me too, sneakers! I'm about half way through 'The Hobbit' having already read the trilogy and seen the movie twice. I'm going with my daughter again on Sunday; she's a Legolas fan and I'm partial to Boromir! We love all the stills from the movie; proof that the DVD is going to be AWESOME!

13 posted on 02/15/2002 7:26:48 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
Me too! I admit, I am obsessed!
14 posted on 02/15/2002 7:28:17 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oops! I meant to ask that you add me to your ping list but I got over excited! (Aragorn & Legolas fan)
15 posted on 02/15/2002 7:29:23 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sir,

Nice idea. Count me in as a frequent visitor to the tavern.

I have always thought that this chapter served as the (necessary) transition from The Hobbit to LOTR. It has some of the feel of The Hobbit and of course traffics in familiar characters and places. It's very "hobbity."

The prose is a little deeper, however, and hints creep in quickly that despite all the fun, that this will be a darker tale.

But I suppose my Gaffer would say that's what comes of mixing in the affairs of your betters.

16 posted on 02/15/2002 7:29:36 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: HairOfTheDog
bump
17 posted on 02/15/2002 7:33:55 AM PST by billbears
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To: HairOfTheDog
Might I request an occasional ping also, madam?
18 posted on 02/15/2002 7:37:01 AM PST by sinclair
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To: HairOfTheDog
Please add me to your ping list.
19 posted on 02/15/2002 7:37:51 AM PST by Strider
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To: The Iguana
I agree...The Hobbit comes across as being fun, right off the bat and someone starting into FOTR might think it would continue along the same lines until they read the
"reports and complaints of strange persons and creatures prowling about the borders. . .the first sign that all was not quite as it should be." (Tolkien, Prologue FOTR)

20 posted on 02/15/2002 7:39:28 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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