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House Passes Campaign Finance Bill
CNSNews.com ^ | 2/14/02 | Susan Jones

Posted on 02/14/2002 1:52:44 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - They did it: Following a 16-hour debate, the U.S. House of Representatives early Thursday morning passed a bill that would change the nation's campaign finance laws - for the better, said supporters; and for worse, said critics.

The vote was 240-189, with 41 Republicans and one independent voting for the Shays-Meehan bill, 12 Democrats voting with 176 Republicans and one independent against it.

The measure that passed around 2:30 a.m. is close enough to the Senate version that it could go straight to the Senate floor for a vote, in which case Republicans are promising a filibuster; or if the Senate doesn't accept it outright, it could move into a conference committee first.

President Bush, much to the dismay of some Republicans, is expected to sign the measure once it reaches his desk.

Here's some of what the House-passed bill does: It bans unregulated "soft-money" given to national political parties by corporations, unions, interest groups, and individuals; but it would allow soft-money contributions to state and local parties, up to a $10,000 limit.

It allows individuals to donate up to $2,000 (from the current $1,000 limit) to political candidates. And it also restricts broadcast advertising in the sixty days before an election.

The latter provision may provide the "meat" for a legal challenge. Opponents - who already are threatening to sue -- say restricting broadcast advertising before an election is tantamount to restricting free speech.

As for the soft-money ban, opponents say it is nothing more than a move to protect political incumbents against challengers who are less well known.

On the other hand, campaign finance "reformers" say the bill will help restore public confidence in the political system where money buys influence. Nonsense, say critics, who insist that money talks - always has and always will. They say politicians will find ways around the law, or simply walk through its loopholes.

 


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To: JohnHuang2
Basically, it means *phoniness*,
Once again I learn something new.

an fitting depiction of our "courageous" congrescritters.
Sad, but true. One more thing to remember this coming fall.

161 posted on 02/14/2002 7:22:38 AM PST by Valin
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To: concerned about politics
I'm glad you are proud to be conservative and republican. I am proud to be conservative and will continue voting for conservatives. Elected republicans are being beaten again though...by the liberal statists...

Where is the gop leadership on this issue?

162 posted on 02/14/2002 7:23:37 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: B. A. Conservative
TERM LIMITS You have it exactly right and you state it with eloquence. Often it is said that government is a necessary evil.While much is said about the wrongs of government,hardly ever is government described as an evil beast.Governmrnt is the evil beast and career politicians are the living beating heart of that beast.As long as that heart is allowed to beat,our freedoms shall wither. I think the only way to strict term limits is going to come by way of Constitutional Convention and the road to that convention shall run red with the blood of many.
163 posted on 02/14/2002 7:24:29 AM PST by meanspirit77
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
OK, if and this is a big IF this passes on to the whitehouse and if (IF) the ussc doesn't strike it down.
What do we do? How do we get around this? There has to be a loophole somewhere.
164 posted on 02/14/2002 7:25:56 AM PST by Valin
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To: Matchett-PI
Hey D-head...i just explained my rather complex political identity...if you must be personal - prepare to be more than slightly highlighted as a small thinker...I'm sorry you cant compartmentalize Party identity and polital thought and processes.
165 posted on 02/14/2002 7:27:26 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Valin
Shays is speaking now, praising Dick Gephardt for not making CFR a partisan issue.
166 posted on 02/14/2002 7:27:58 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: rbmillerjr
Where is the gop leadership on this issue?

I've been looking for it too, but somehow Bush gets everything he wants. He'll get tax relief, too.

167 posted on 02/14/2002 7:29:39 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
PS...Bush is as gentle as a dove, but as wise as a serpant.
If he signs this bill, there's something in it that will hang the DNC. If it's there, Bush will find it.
He has VERY experienced people on his staff. They've seen all this before.
168 posted on 02/14/2002 7:34:30 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Lazamataz
You wrote:

"Let's get one thing straight here: Politicians WILL be controlling our speech WITHIN our lifetimes."

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Heck Laz.....it's ALREADY being done illegally and legally. Remember what happened to people and entities that spoke out against the Sick Slick and Hitlery? Audits for all.....and it was apparently legal. The politicians right now...let the PC police among us...control, steer, harass, moderate, repress, coerce, GOVERN....our speech NOW..!!

169 posted on 02/14/2002 7:39:37 AM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Valin
There has to be a loophole somewhere.

More like freeway underpasses. EVERYONE will be able to drive a tractor-trailer rig through them (including us).

But the bill still stinks to high heaven.

170 posted on 02/14/2002 7:40:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: concerned about politics
Please show me...when this become a 'conservative Republican' site?

Here is what is says on the front page of the site.

"Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

Where does that say Republican?

171 posted on 02/14/2002 7:44:19 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: EternalVigilance
More like freeway underpasses. EVERYONE will be able to drive a tractor-trailer rig through them (including us).

Not being the brightest bulb on the tree, how so?

172 posted on 02/14/2002 7:47:24 AM PST by Valin
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To: rbmillerjr
Independent isn't a party - I was speaking about financial contributions. I'd can't fathom the thought of losing the House. Have you thought about who would control the major committees: Rangel will chair Ways and Means, Conyers or Barney Frank would chair Judiciary - those alone should put the fear of God into any Conservative!
173 posted on 02/14/2002 7:51:11 AM PST by Alissa
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To: Valin
There are forms of communication we and others can use that will never pass under the umbrella of this type of legislation.

There is no way the Supremes are going to stop us from running a printing press, for example.

"A drop of ink can make a million think." -Lord Byron

174 posted on 02/14/2002 7:53:01 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: PhiKapMom
Please tell me when it became the NRA's job to preserve, protect and defend the consitution and not the president's? It is the president of the United States job to preserve, protect and defend, correct? That oath meant something, right?
175 posted on 02/14/2002 7:55:43 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Valin
"What do we do? How do we get around this? There has to be a loophole somewhere."

The same way we will get around it when they pass laws to confiscate our firearms, and when they make the anti-prolife laws fit with much tougher teeth and when Hillary care comes into being and you need heart bypass surgery but will be standing in line and waiting a few years. We will break the laws and become criminals and go to jail or be fined of everything we have. This is where this takes us.

The elite have become that much more elite. The peasant class has become that much more of the peasant class. (There is no middle class any more). The peasants can no longer ban together to fight the monster. That's what this means. It has torn the heart out of the American political process and when the heart goes, the nation goes. We just haven't issued the death certificate yet - but America is DEAD if President Bush does not veto this outrageous piece of garbage.

176 posted on 02/14/2002 7:56:47 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Alissa
LOL, I didnt say I was abandoning conservatism...and I dont think I called possibly changing from gop to Independent a move to a new Party - but merely being an Independent.

However, I am old fashioned in that I think republicans should act as republicans to get my support.

177 posted on 02/14/2002 7:57:58 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: kattracks
One has to hope that the Republican stratagy is to allow the bill to pass. And then for the President to sign... stating his reservation regarding his concern for free speach.

Then to be challanged, sending it to SCOTUS with the hope of having it striken down as unconstitutional. Thereby allowing the Pres to collect politcal points and giving him a more powerful platform to redesign the bill acording to his time-tabel and removing that hairy beast from the media's grasp of control.

178 posted on 02/14/2002 8:00:04 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: Godfollow
Where does the DNC get all their money? If unions can't give, special interest groups can't give, businesses can't give....where will they get THEIR money?
179 posted on 02/14/2002 8:03:14 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
It won't matter. The DNC will get the 60 days of press coverage from the media.
180 posted on 02/14/2002 8:18:37 AM PST by hchutch
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