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Pray For England's Queen Mother. It's The Hardest Of All.
BBC ^ | 2/13/02 | BBC

Posted on 02/13/2002 2:47:58 PM PST by Bogie

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To: nopardons
It has little to do with the fact that out of the entire world, England ALONE has stood by us in word and deed.

And I appreciate that. However, why is that so?

101 posted on 02/13/2002 11:58:54 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
Because we were their bastard child! We have much in common with them.
102 posted on 02/14/2002 12:00:31 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Beetlebuzz
Shut the door behind you, please.
103 posted on 02/14/2002 12:01:57 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
Actually, YES , I have a great deal of problems with your post . Conservativs do NOT go around telling other countries who to install as president,or whatever title they may have , nor do they " install " OUR exact form of governance upon them. We did NOT do that in Japan . Go lok it up; you are in great need of learning historical facts.

We support Israel, which is a democracy, we support India, which is a democracy, and FYI, we helped install a demcoracy and oust the MARXIST Sandinestas, albeit covertly, when Dems were all for NOT doing that. My, my, how little you know. I could go on teaching you factoids, but you'd be better served, if you go look it all up yourself. : - )

You are falling into a huge trap, and don't even realize it. THE USA IS NOT AN EMPIRE ! Neither, BTW, are we a " democracy ! We are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC ! What you popose is SO far from Conservative thought, ideals, and positions, as to be laughable. Are you quite certain that you even know what Conservatives stand for ?

I have EVERY right, to question someone else's Conservatism. It's done here ALL of the time ! Where have you been ? Those who have shown contempt, rudeness, and incivility , on this thread, are loutish, crude, and beneath contempt. The subject of this thread is apolitical ; in case you haven't noticed.

104 posted on 02/14/2002 12:04:46 AM PST by nopardons
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To: all
If you are going to pray , pray for ALL the mothers of the world who are on death's door , and have seen their children pass into the great beyond before them .
105 posted on 02/14/2002 12:08:18 AM PST by sushiman
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To: A CA Guy
I've been reading, pre-9/11 about the significance of Biblical prophecy in a free magazine called "The Trumpet",( thetrumpet.com), so I realize the importance of England, the US and Israel. The Author even predicted that Iran was "the head of the snake", which is beginning to come out now.

The thing that I resent about England is its adherence to PC/Socialist doctrine.

106 posted on 02/14/2002 12:09:50 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: nopardons
Well, then I must not be a Conservative, since I believe in freeing the worl of tyrrany. Conserving old-world ways is clearly not my cup of tea if I think that people in Iraq, or China should have the right to representaation. Excuse me!
107 posted on 02/14/2002 12:20:13 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
PC/ Socialist England ? You resent another country, when we have just lived through 8 long , weary years of that and worse, AND it was the USA which has exported PC all over the world ? Grow a brain !

Just WHAT did the Dowager Queen Mother have do with PC , or Socialism, for that matter ?

Here's a partial list, of other countries, that you cab stupidly resent, and bad mouth their heads of state; titular, or otherwise.

In no particular order : Canada, Australian, Germany, Austria, Russia, Lituania, Latvia, France, New Zealand, Mexico, Barbados, Jamaica, Haiti, China, North Korea, Japan, Greece, Pakistan, Lybia, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Iran,Iraq, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Nigeria, Rawanda, Cuba, Malawi ; or heck, just resent EVERY sountry and EVERY person, on the face of the earth. Happy NOW, are you ?

108 posted on 02/14/2002 12:20:55 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Concentrate
cab = can
109 posted on 02/14/2002 12:21:49 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Concentrate
If you don't know, a deffinative , cogent answer would take far too long, eat up FAR too much bandwidth , and be much too much of a bother ( without being compensated for it I might add ) , for me to bother with. Go do some reaseach on it.

The short answer, is that they don't give a damn, are basically cowards , and figure that the USA can do it, AND take care of THEM as well, so why should they bother.

110 posted on 02/14/2002 12:31:00 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Your brand of Conservatism sounds like tyrrany to me. It seems you want to "conserve" all the tyrranical governments of the world, simply because they already exist. Don't you think that the people should be free to choose their leaders? Do you believe that more nations should be republics, or do you think only the people of the US deserve that? Let's spread it around a bit.

Try to temper your indignation with wisdom. Kind Regards-

111 posted on 02/14/2002 12:31:10 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: nopardons
Well, I admit I was rude with my remarks about the Queen. How's that? And the British are our only real friends outside of Israel. I really don't wish her ill, nor anyone else, save a few, like those damn Imams calling for Jihad. Nonetheless, it wasn't the US that exported PC alone. There is lot's of blame to go around. BTW, have you read about Antonio Gramsci? - Got to go to bed.
112 posted on 02/14/2002 12:39:18 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
I don't suffer fools lightly ; ergo my intemperate ( the word you needed but don't know ) indignation.

Please CCP the part of the Constitution, or any other document , where it gives such power to the USA. I'll give you a tiny hint ... YOU WON'T FIND IT ANYWHERE AT ALL ! Not only is it NOT our job, to go from country to country, overturning their form of governance and leadership, we can't afford to pay for such an adventure. It is also NOT part of any Conservative position ; not now, not ever. It wasn't even a Whig position. What YOU are saying, in essence, is sthat the USA should just take over and run the world. Have care there, and try your very best, to understand just what it is that you are asking for.

NONE OF YOUR POSTS HAVE A THING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD ; EITHER GET ON TOPIC, OR GET OFF THIS THREAD!

113 posted on 02/14/2002 12:42:40 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I'm talking about upsetting tyrranies and then backing away, as we did in Germany and Japan, NOT running the world. Once the people have some input, tyrrany is much less possible. It is in our self interest at this point to do this. If you can't see this, then you should put your head back in the sand and pretend that terrorists from countries led by monarchies, such as Saudi, or totalitarian marxism will not nuke us.
114 posted on 02/14/2002 12:50:41 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
If anyone's head is in something ( and your's is ), it most assurredly is NOT mine. You lumped England in with all other TRYANIES, and now you have backed off that bit. You needed to ! There aren't free elections, with many parties, and no intimidation/ torture / and murdering opponents, in a tyranically run counry. Britain holds free and democratic elections; has done , for centuries. You're batting exactly XERO , in this discussion , and behaving like a damned LIBERAL !

You might as well give up now, before you embarrass yorself further. All of your backpeddling and spinning , is getting you nowhere fast. Just wish the Queen Mum well, and get off this thead.

115 posted on 02/14/2002 1:21:39 AM PST by nopardons
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To: coloradan
World's most expensive welfare family.

While I send sympathies to any family, including theirs, who loses a family member, I absolutely agree with your comments above as well. I cannot imagine worshiping someone who steals from others, literally, and lives like a King (or Queen) off of what is literally the slave wages of other human beings.
116 posted on 02/14/2002 1:29:30 AM PST by ItsDocGerbilsWorld
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To: marshmallow
#59

Well said!!!!!!!! Great reply! You took the words right out of my mouth! One of the best I have ever seen on Free Republic!

God bless.

117 posted on 02/14/2002 1:39:52 AM PST by Bogie
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To: ladyinred
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Yeah, but I am afaid that this one may be too hard for her. Ya see, that's what being a mother is really all about, even for the Queen of England.

118 posted on 02/14/2002 1:44:43 AM PST by Bogie
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To: Virgil Texas
..do they do anything besides waste space and money?...

Hey.

You dropped this.


119 posted on 02/14/2002 1:51:40 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
#78

DITTO!

120 posted on 02/14/2002 1:57:50 AM PST by Bogie
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