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To: _Jim
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.
55 posted on 02/21/2002 7:09:58 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: Red Jones
it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.

Yeah, right.

We're back to "How did they fool the IN (Inertial Nav) system?"

You don't understand that question - do you?

57 posted on 02/21/2002 7:12:16 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Red Jones
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.

Do you have any idea how inertial navigation works?

It doesn't use any outside electronic data sources. Instead, accelerometers in the aircraft measure its every movement.

In short, in order for the Soviets to be able to lure the aircraft off course by "electronic means," those "electronic means" would have to distort the Earth's gravity field. Ain't no way to do that--or, rather, if the Soviets WERE able to do that, we would've lost the Cold War rather blatantly...

The ICAO investigation found that a rather easy-to-make-error would put the wrong start location into the INS...and that would, in turn, cause the aircraft to fly the wrong direction, Garbage in, garbage out...

58 posted on 02/21/2002 7:16:23 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Red Jones
#1 you are EXTREMELY gullible
#2 You have NO sense of what goes on in the world - even to this day!

The following was extracted from: http://www.infotec-travel.com/txt/it791.txt


>Last week I flew on a Delta flight from Atlanta to Tampa on a L-1011
>and got to see something really cool.
....
[stuff about GPS driven position indicators on civil flights.]
....
>Really a nice system which was well received by many people on board -
>even our flight crew had not seen it before.



The following story is *NOT* an urban legend but happened last year on
Sept 5th.

Northwest Airlines flight 52 from Detroit to Frankfurt flew to the
wrong airport. The pilot was unaware that he was touching down at
Brussels despite the fact that the passengers and crew of the plane
could all see the GPS system in the cabin showing they were landing in
Brussels. 

The flight attendants decided not to warn the pilots, fearing a hijack
was underway and because of rules forbidding contact with the crew on
a final approach.

The pilot was relieved from duty and a new crew flew to Brussels to
collect the flight and fly it on to Frankfurt. It arrived seven hours
late. 

[for a slightly more complete version of the story you will need to
call up the Electronic Telegraph on http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ 
You can find the story by searching back issues with the following
keys:  airline brussels frankfurt landing]


60 posted on 02/21/2002 7:17:03 PM PST by _Jim
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