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Two Middle East men arrested outside Pentagon - Fake drivers’ licenses spur troopers to call in FBI
MSNBC.com ^ | February 12, 2002

Posted on 02/12/2002 9:06:27 PM PST by Shermy

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41 posted on 02/12/2002 9:48:47 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: John H K
Our society as we know it wouldn't function without illegals.

Our society as we know it wouldn't function if we are all dead either!!

42 posted on 02/12/2002 9:49:31 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: mercy
Whaddaya mean dumb luck? He was on patrol, and was able to get another patrol vehicle to stop the suspects. Sounds like they were doing their jobs as planned. Looks like the stepped up patrols worked.

But I guess its a lot easier to throw out the cynical worn out claptrap about what boobs law enforcement are.

43 posted on 02/12/2002 9:54:34 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Rain-maker
Perhaps they were mapping the layout of the area. I've seen tow trucks used to move "jersey wall" concrete barriers before.

Heck, give them a ticket to Gitmo until it's determined exactly who they are.

44 posted on 02/12/2002 9:55:04 PM PST by csvset
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To: boston_liberty
Good Bet :)
45 posted on 02/12/2002 9:55:30 PM PST by JD86
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To: lowbridge
ROFLOL
46 posted on 02/12/2002 9:56:00 PM PST by JD86
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To: Shermy
He searched the truck and found numerous false identification cards, Caldwell said, including a half dozen drivers’ licenses from several states “with different identities on them.”

Lock them up until they turn states evidence on their "buddies". Send them to Guantanamo.

47 posted on 02/12/2002 9:58:00 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Shermy
Has anyone else noticed how persistent these people are?

It seems they get a fixation on a target (the World Trade Center, now the Pentagon) and just keep on hammering until they get it.

They don't seem very imaginative - once they have an idea, they obsess over it. Fortunately, this really helps law enforcement go after them.

Thoughts?

D

48 posted on 02/12/2002 9:58:59 PM PST by daviddennis
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To: John H K
Our society as we know it wouldn't function without illegals.

I was listening to a radio show where they were talking about the terrorists. Virtually every terrorist they profiled was born in Saudi Arabia but the vast majority of those were Yemeni Citizens. The hosts wondered how that could be since anyone born in America is an American Citizen.

The answer is simple they are the offspring of the vast number of guest workers that Saudi Arabia uses for the menial jobs that Saudi Arabians won't do. Can you imagine the feeling that these people must have seeing the opulence around them as they grew up, hearing their parents bemoan the hard labor, while being born in a country where they will never even be second class citizens?

These non-entities are a fertile recruiting ground for the Terrorist leaders who point their anger away from their Saudi masters toward the developed world. The Saudi Government has to be complicit in this since they need the labor to keep their opulent economy running but don't want the disaffected bombing the royal palaces.

Bringing in a permanent underclass to perform odious tasks has been a mistake since the time of the Romans.

49 posted on 02/12/2002 10:02:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: cinFLA
Your story about fake IDs in Sacramento reminds me of an expose on the local NBC affiliate here in L.A. that I saw just last week. Paul Moyers, the anchorman, confronted shop owners that were selling them. He showed tape of the uh, salespeople standing out on the street, making the gesture that is associated with the sale of fake IDs (holding up your hand as if you are presenting a card for someone else to read).

They even had footage of these guys gesticulating away as a policeman sat in traffic in his car - just adjacent to these guys! Moyer then shows all this footage to Police Chief Bernie Parks. Parks makes some excuse, "Well, there is a lot of activity on the street. The officer probably did not notice them." How can they not know this is going on?

Moyers said that in the week that transpired between the taping of the Parks interview and the airing of the piece, NOTHING had been done, no arrests. Damn these people to the craphole where they belong. They are responsible for the craphole this place has become. I hope they get rid of that SOB Parks, if this is his modus operandi.

50 posted on 02/12/2002 10:05:09 PM PST by Floratina
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To: Shermy
Perhaps the tow truck was there to move some concrete barricades and ease the path of a truck bomb?
51 posted on 02/12/2002 10:06:25 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Rain-maker
Tow truck? Rather odd, anyone care to speculate what muslims with fake ID's would do with a tow truck?

Maybe these guys were just trying to penetrate security to see if they could or to see what the response would be. This sounds like a scouting mission to me. Maybe they figured that if they drove a prohibited vehicle (but clean of anything incriminating) into the security zone, they would just be told to leave and/or pay a ticket on a fairly bogus charge, the payoff being that they get a firsthand look at the security hardware and procedures.

52 posted on 02/12/2002 10:13:05 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Mike Darancette
Yeah, but the US isn't bringing in a permanent underclass. Most immigrants rise out of poverty within a couple of generations or less.
53 posted on 02/12/2002 10:14:19 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yes, dumb luck. Or should I say dumb terrorists. I'm not putting down the cop on the beat. I am putting down the gubmint buerocracy that let them in here, failed to monitor them, and failed to remove them when they violated their visas. Not to mention failed to properly screen them when they arrived, failed to profile them, and failed to put the welfare of America and it's citizens above some PC ideal promulgated by who knows who for who knows what reason.

And oh yeah, up your nose with a rubber hose, jerk!

54 posted on 02/12/2002 10:14:35 PM PST by mercy
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To: seamole
Had an encounter with a tow truck driver today. $50 cash and I got my car back, the b@stard. As far as I'm concerned, their occupation alone makes them terrorists.

Damn, what's wrong with a parking ticket?

I really agree, they piss me off. I don't feel sorry for them when they get assaulted. Maybe if they had a job that served society instead of taking advantage of the law and exploiting people, people wouldn't be hitting them with crowbars. That goes for the boot-man, too. I have no sympathy when the local boot-man gets beat down.

55 posted on 02/12/2002 10:19:26 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Shermy; all
Thanks for posting this.

If you are going to be a terrorist and want to have a powerful vehicle to go into key areas and be transparent, get yourself a tow truck!

Hell you would even become more transparent if you turned on the flashing lights. Then you could tow away any vehicle you needed for your next terrorisms assignment. No one would bother you.

About a decade ago, some bright thugs stole a tow truck in the Visalia area. They used it to rip the atm machines out of the various branches of banks and savings and loan. They would back right up to the atm attach chains and rip it out and drive off to any alley, lower it and take it apart and steal the money.

They got caught when a guy who retired from the company I worked for, got a part time job of restocking the money for ATMs. He would do this early in the morning before the regular morning rush on ATM's by the customers.

He had filled up an ATM and drove about a block away to do his paper work. He heard a noise and looked in his rear view mirror and saw a tow truck back up to the ATM and somehow rig chains to the machine. They pulled it out of the wall and then drove by him with the ATM dangling from the tow hook.

It was about 4:30 am, and he used the cell phone that was provided by the ATM company for security. He called the police as he followed the truck. About 6 blocks away the truck turned down an alley and the robbers got out to shred the machine for the cash.

He was on the phone with the dispatch gal and she sent two squad cars up the alley from opposite directions. They pulled up and ordered the bad guys to hit the pavement. Then they arrested them.

56 posted on 02/12/2002 10:26:35 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yeah, but the US isn't bringing in a permanent underclass.

But, yet, that underclass is here, now as illegal aliens.

I predict that within 5 years we too will have some type of guest worker program.

57 posted on 02/12/2002 10:31:08 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: John H K
Really? How many MILLIONS does it take to work those fields? Guess the hundreds/thousands on street corners and welfare in the southwest haven't heard about the job openings. Maybe we should advertise.
58 posted on 02/12/2002 10:43:49 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Shermy
Bump for the troopers!
59 posted on 02/12/2002 10:45:13 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Shermy
Some of their stupidity is overwhelming. These people are not dealing with a full deck. I keep hearing people say things like we are having too many terrorist alerts, but I don't think so.

I am on watch at the grocery store, the mall, driving down the highway, sitting at red lights. I think what terrorists we do have here in country, that have a clue about how America operates, have gone so far underground out of fear of being discovered. We know their faces, security is beefed up all over the place at power plants, chemical plants, oil refineries, etc.

We have almost instant communication at our disposal with cell phones, it will not be so easy for them to pull something off anymore.

60 posted on 02/12/2002 10:50:30 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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