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Elephant On The Coffee Table : The Truth Americans Won't Face
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| February 12, 2002
| Paul E. Scates
Posted on 02/12/2002 5:40:47 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Are you trying to tell me something?
To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Good read.
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02/12/2002 5:44:50 AM PST
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riley1992
To: Stand Watch Listen
BTTT
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02/12/2002 5:45:59 AM PST
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firewalk
To: Stand Watch Listen
That we´d complacently allow ourselves to be ruled over by demagogues like Trent Lott, Tom Daschle and John McCain? Do you think Jefferson, Madison or Henry would so meekly accept the hypocrisy of Ted Kennedy, Diane Feinstein or those other honorable´ Senators?No. Which is one main reason that the general electorate was never supposed to vote for our Senators. They are supposed to be about the business of the nation, instead of working up cute little soundbites for the 6 o'clock news. I think one quick fix would turn this nation back closer to the republic than it's ever been and that would be to put the election of Senators back in the state houses where they belong. It would take away their need to run to the nearest microphone and maybe, just maybe they would go back into the Senate chamber and get something done
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02/12/2002 5:46:58 AM PST
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billbears
To: Stand Watch Listen
BUMP
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02/12/2002 5:49:38 AM PST
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steve50
To: billbears
Bump.
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To: Travis McGee, squantos, harpseal, JulieRNR21
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." -- Thomas Paine
I, for one, live my Patrick Henry's words, and prefer to know the truth of what is happening, rather than live in ignorant bliss. I know I'm not alone.
To: billbears
Regarding your post#5, you are correct. The 17th amendment was installed as a purposeful erosion of our Constitutional Republic, and must be repealed.
To: billbears
And EVERY candidate could ONLY take support/money from someone WITHIN his district!
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02/12/2002 6:03:06 AM PST
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litehaus
To: billbears
Which is one main reason that the general electorate was never supposed to vote for our Senators. The job of the Senate was to represent the interests of State legislatures, to ensure that the Federal govt did not usurp the powers that were supposed to stay with the States. People like Kennedy and Feinstein would never have been selected under the old system
Also, under the original system, there was one Representative for every 50,000 inhabitants (rather than our current 435 representing 272 million, or one per 625,000). It is within the financial means of the average middle-class candidate to get together the money to get his message to 50K people (or around 15-20K households). Making it over 10 times as expensive means you need big money
To: billbears
That we´d complacently allow ourselves to be ruled over by demagogues like Trent Lott, Tom Daschle and John McCain? Do you think Jefferson, Madison or Henry would so meekly accept the hypocrisy of Ted Kennedy, Diane Feinstein or those other honorable´ Senators? There is enough hypocrisy to go around. Jefferson is the guy who wrote that all men are created equal isn't he. But he meant all white men..... right? Do we really think Jefferson wasn't smart enough to realize that a black man was a man...? Much of what our founding fathers wrote and said was intended to inspire the common man to fight their war against the king. A war by in large fought because our founding fathers didn't like paying taxes, and they were smart enough to know that the king didn't have the resources to make them do it.
I'm as patriotic as the next guy... but I don't worship the words of our founding fathers... and I don't believe they were inspired of God. And I believe that writing about all men being created equal and owning slaves is hypocritical.
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02/12/2002 6:09:02 AM PST
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kjam22
To: Stand Watch Listen
One glaring fact that is never mentioned in this screed: In 1789, Americans taught and nurtured their own children, 90% of whom could read, btw. Now, 90% of American children are taught and nurtured--BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!
To: kjam22
If you read the Declaration of Independence, the issue was more than just taxes and Jefferson may have had more vision toward the equality of the races in the future than he is given credit.
To: Stand Watch Listen
I love reading this stuff, ......thanks , ...always an education from your posts........
Stay Safe !
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02/12/2002 6:23:01 AM PST
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Squantos
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To: litehaus
This is a great article,and your suggestion,as well as billbears are two measures that must be taken in order to turn the tide.
To: Stand Watch Listen
...as Samuel Adams said, love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude more than the animating contest of freedom . Ben Franklin rightly said that such as these deserve neither freedom nor security.´Outstanding essay, thanks for posting it. I agree with Franklin's observation concerning those who do not deserve freedom and security to a point. That point is that the cretins who happily trade their freedom and security away, are dragging the rest of us into that abyss. But I guess thats OK. After all, it is a democracy....right??
Regards
J.R.
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02/12/2002 6:35:48 AM PST
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NMC EXP
To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping Joe, and no your not alone........although at times I have fumbled along clueless of the evil in our world myself..... I try to not let it happen anymore as IMHO it has cost me and my country in the long run.
Vigilance is a 24/7 duty of all Americans to ensure constitutional freedoms aren't subverted.
Sad part is sometimes I feel like a Coho swimming upstream to die in my efforts.......
But heh, sometimes ya just have to get wet :o) .................Stay Safe !
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02/12/2002 6:38:03 AM PST
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Squantos
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