[rdb3]

You can both Democrats and Republicans who support the exit tax. So, there's no "gotcha" there. It's shameful, but it's true.

Now, you know you are leading with your chin, right? If you want honest debate, don't ask loaded questions with prefabricated answers. I know better than to engage in such a dialogue because it's absolutely fruitless.

As to your question(s), it was extremely vague. Care to clarify?

Peace. There it is and there it wuz.

[f.Christian]

Now, you know you are leading with your chin, right? If you want honest debate, don't ask loaded questions with prefabricated answers. I know better than to engage in such a dialogue because it's absolutely fruitless.

Looks like we have a fighter--boxer here...ko-king--champ?

Knock--slap those liberal--libberatarians silly(into...reality/realatarianism)!

[JohnGalt]

Is the meaning for the Conservative movement the protection of the nation-state or the protection of individual rights and liberty?

Most libertarians would argue that since liberty is inevitable, such invented things as nation-states, the arbitrary borders and common currency that allegedly binds us..., will either adapt or disappear. Are Conservatives the ones trying to prevent the end of the nation state and libertarians the one's who think the end is a foregone conclusion?

I ask only that Conservatives be clear as to what they are 'conserving' and ask the same of libertarians, to be honest if the ends we are looking to achieve.