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To: rdb3
Is the meaning for the Conservative movement the protection of the nation-state or the protection of individual rights and liberty?

Most libertarians would argue that since liberty is inevitable, such invented things as nation-states, the arbitrary borders and common currency that allegedly binds us..., will either adapt or disappear. Are Conservatives the ones trying to prevent the end of the nation state and libertarians the one's who think the end is a foregone conclusion?

I ask only that Conservatives be clear as to what they are 'conserving' and ask the same of libertarians, to be honest if the ends we are looking to achieve.

69 posted on 02/12/2002 11:58:58 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
Most libertarians would argue that since liberty is inevitable...

Reality is relentless---inevitable...good for some--bad for others.

Life choices--BEHAVIOR pretty much determine that...example too!

70 posted on 02/12/2002 1:12:04 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: JohnGalt
Uhhh, Mr. Galt? You do realize that speaking in terms of political "inevitability" sounds just like it came out Marx's Communist Manefesto, right?

As a conservative, I say that being conservative should mean "conserving" the Constitution. But conserving this document and its true intent is not the same as saying the so-called nation-state will wither away on the vine.

Now that sounds like utopianism.

71 posted on 02/12/2002 1:53:36 PM PST by rdb3
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