Posted on 02/07/2002 6:58:30 AM PST by RJCogburn
No, some people reject the Holy Spirit. I'm not talking about rejection of stories told by men, but by what exchanges occur between the Spirit and a man. Here's what God has to say about it, for this sort of transgression.
Matthew 18:6, " But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
God does not love all things, that includes those beings that intend harm to Him and use coercion and fraud to war against His will.
I can't imagine God would stop loving anyone, no matter what because why would He deprive Himself of the joy of loving them
God never seperates Himself from His people, but we seperate ourselves from Him. We do that by not approaching Him on His terms. When we ignore God, or approach Him on our terms, He turns away from us. If we die while still seperated from Him, the seperation is permanent because God will do nothing to undermine our free will.
As a follower of Christ, I recognize that God's terms are that I admit that I have been disobedient to God in the way that I have lived my life, believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to approach God, and then commit my life to His service by obeying His commands and serving others. If I do anything else, I am telling God "I'll do it my way."
I read a quote once saying that "love is that state in which the welfare and happiness of another are vital to your own" or something very close to it... I believe the quote was attributed to Robert Heinlein, and it's a pretty good definition of one type of love.
It seems to me that the author of this piece says that love is selfish and therefore causes you to do unselfish things. I don't think that makes much sense, really.
1. Eros Sensual Love. Sensual love is not unconditional at all. It is conditional on that other person ringing my chimes. Since passion fades, so does eros.
2. Filia Family Love.
3. Storge Friendship. Platonic love. Comradeship.
4. Agape A completely altruistic benevolence, like that of God or a saint.
This guy is diminishing Storge in favor of Eros, which is completely selfish. Where his argument fails miserably is that passion burns out. Storge is loving someone even when it's not fun anymore, even when they are sick or broke, loving someome like a friend. And if your friendship is conditional on your interests, then you are no friend.
How do you tell someone who does not yet know God that God is love?
By the way, I am guessing you believe that line about God hating sin but loving the sinner. Is that true?
Hank
Most prostitutes would agree with that.
Hank
LOL, but, my wife agrees with me. Love that is not love for something worth loving is worse than hate.
We had a saying about certain girls in our school, when I was young (about 45 years ago). She only does it for her friends, and she doesn't have an enemy in the world.
That's "unconditional love."
Hank
I agree completely, yet, the popular expression for indescriminate sex, is "making love." You were the one that brought up the "sensual" thing being unconditional. Actually, it is extremely conditional, and becomes almost impossible between those who loathe one another. The body just reacts to the mind that way.
Hank
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