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To: verboten
"I'm always a little baffled by such questions. What do government laws do other then restrict behavior or take property, and therefore circumscribe freedom? ... So every prohibition in new laws is a theft of our liberty."

No. There are thousands of driving laws, yet I can still drive. There are hundreds of drinking laws, yet I can still drink. There are scores of security laws, yet I can still purchase stocks. There are miriad property laws, yet I can still buy and sell land.

With that in mind, I asked you what SPECIFIC liberty that you've been denied.

325 posted on 01/30/2002 8:41:44 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
There were thousands of driving laws, yet Nazis could still drive. There were hundreds of drinking laws, yet Nazis could still drink. There were scores of security laws, yet Nazis could still purchase stocks. There were myriad property laws, yet Nazis could still buy and sell land. Replace Nazi with Soviet or any other represive regime.

Each law that does not protect your life, liberty, or property, is a specific infringement on liberty. And likewise the government being granted the right to infringe on your life, liberty, and property is a loss of liberty. The idea that you are free if in order to obtain that freedom you must get a license is strange. Freedom does not mean seeking permission or avoiding using your freedom in a manner which does not violate the life, liberty, or property of another person. You can say a slave is free, so long as he did his masters bidding, but I would object to misuse of the term free.
335 posted on 01/30/2002 9:30:56 PM PST by verboten
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