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I think so too. Either I'm doing a really bad job of expressing myself, or CG isn't doing a good job of reading what I wrote (probably a little of both). OWK knows, we've played on these threads before. The short form I guess is:
In private among consenting adults I don't care what you do.
In public as long as it's within the boundaries of good taste, and not putting any extra harangue on the same sexness, what's good for a goose and gander is good for two geese, I don't care.
Outside the boundaries of good taste, again whether it's goose and gander or just geeses or just ganders, society needs to draw the line, and the line needs to be enforce through normal non-governmental societal mechanism (ostrasizing works pretty well, some people just don't get the point though and require the use of Louisville Sluggers, one beat down teaches a lot of people though).

Overall I'm pretty mellow. I don't have a problem with gay marriages as long as they don't try to force churches to recognize them. Churches make their own rules if people don't like their church's rules they should find another church. But all my rules apply equally across. I don't want to see any couples playing tonsil tango at the mall, it's not the place for it. The only butts I want to see hanging out are the ones I paid for in a stripclub. If your giving lollipops to kids they better be clean and normal, no "adult novelty" items for jr.

The only reason my "rules" effect homosexuals at all is that there's a bunch of them that trample all over these rules at every gay pride march. That's why I put out a call to the Log Cabin reps to start organizing and take these marches over. Wouldn't it be cool to turn on your TV find out their covering the latest gay pride march and see nothing but well dressed men and women behaving in a civilized fashion? Isn't it sad that wishing for that makes me a crazy dreamer?

Discostu, this is where you lose me; I'm not sure if you're serious, or if you're just kidding (I hope you're kidding):

You say this:

Overall I'm pretty mellow.

But you preface that with this:

(ostrasizing works pretty well, some people just don't get the point though and require the use of Louisville Sluggers, one beat down teaches a lot of people though).

Are you seriously advocating the use of Louisville Sluggers if mere ostracism doesn't do what you would consider to be an adequate job of discouraging public displays of affection between homosexuals?

Please, say "no".

The only reason my "rules" effect homosexuals at all is that there's a bunch of them that trample all over these rules at every gay pride march.

I have to take your word for it that what goes on in public during "gay pride" marches is beyond the bounds of acceptable public behavior, because I've never watched a "gay pride" parade. Assuming you are correct, we agree that they are getting away with public behavior that would be equally unacceptable in heterosexuals.

But I have come to realize that some heterosexuals object to behavior in homosexuals that would be perfectly acceptable in heterosexuals, i.e., the placing of a photograph of a loved one on one's desk at the workplace, for example. For some, that's way more "gay pride" than they're willing to tolerate. Like you say, what's good for the goose ought to be good for the gander.

I belong to a church where the theology clearly teaches that homosexual behavior leads to an eternal loss of blessings and chance for progression. I believe that homosexuality is morally wrong. But I believe that it is even more morally wrong to deny the freedom of choice to other individuals. You can preach, teach and exhort your fellow man to righteous works all the day long, and proclaim that God will discriminate between homo- and heterosexuals in the afterlife because he has prohibited such behavior here, but to carry out that discrimination is God's job, in the afterlife, and not ours. To give government that power in this life is for government to usurp God's authority. At least, that's the way I see it.

Wouldn't it be cool to turn on your TV find out their covering the latest gay pride march and see nothing but well dressed men and women behaving in a civilized fashion?

Yup, it would.