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To: chantal7
I can't believe that almost 97% of the people who did the poll would think that parents shouldn't be held responsible for what their kids do with their guns.

What happened to personal responsibility? Especially if the parents were negligent?

The question is poorly phrased.

I'd like to point out that parental negligence was not explicitly mentioned in the question.

"Parents shouldn't be held responsible for what their kids do with their guns" is not what was stated. The phrase was "family owned guns" which sounds like they're trying to sidestep Dr. Kellerman's "gun in the home".

Personal responsibility is responsibility for your own actions. Not those of somebody else.

And if you leave a firearm where a kid can get hold of it, you could be found to be negligent. If the kid takes a drill and takes out the lock on your trigger or your gun cabinet, then probably not.

33 posted on 01/24/2002 5:39:23 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: George Smiley
They had an article that said something like "13 years old shot to death..."( I'm sure those aren't the exact words, though)..right next to where you click to vote. It even had a picture of a pistol to go with it.

The poll was "bias"-ed, "big time". It was an "emotional" poll.

"A kid was shot with one of these!!!! - now vote!!!!"

34 posted on 01/24/2002 6:19:37 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: George Smiley;sit-rep
The question was : Should parents be held responsible for harm caused by their children involving family owned guns?

I believe that parents have the obligation/duty to teach their kids that guns aren't to be used to play and to teach their kids how to use guns, gun safety. They should be kept where younger kids can't get them until they've been taught not to use guns to play and taught gun safety.

If kids are taught right like they were when our grandmas and grandpas were growing up, if they were taught gun safety and morals, we wouldn't be having this problem of kids accidently shooting people because they don't know not to play with a gun or because they think people have to shoot/kill someone to solve an argument.

You're right and I've always agreed that older kids are responsible for their own mistakes if they violate the rules about guns but in my previous statements, which I didn't articulate clearly, I was thinking about those twits who have a loaded gun laying on the bedroom dresser or out in the open, no lock or safety on and they don't teach their kids gun safety nor that guns aren't to be used to play, nor keep an eye/ear out for the kids and what they might be up to because they are watching tv, drinking beer, etc. Then someone gets shot and they wonder why.

I've never had much problem with my kids not minding me, though. They knew where we kept our guns, they knew the rules and that they were off limits to them and their friends. Hmmm or there'd be "Hell to Pay". ;)

My son goes hunting regularly with his friends and he has never had any problems. We have several guns in our gun rack in our bedroom and have never had problems.

Still if those twits don't supervise their young kids, don't teach morals, don't teach gun safety, don't make their kids live by house rules, if they don't have house rules, then they are responsible for what happens, depending on the degree of their negligence.

If you've noticed, when they show pictures of the palestinian kids, arab kids, muslim kids, Afghani kids, they have kids that look as young as 4 or 5 that are holding those russian assault rifles, even pointing them towards the cameramen and reporters and I've not heard of anyone being shot yet. I bet most of that is because the kids have been taught about guns, how to handle them, although, I'm sure there are accidents, too, they must be relatively uncommon.

I'm very pro gun but I do believe in my personal responsibility to teach my kids right from wrong and to have rules of conduct that they must follow until they are adult enough to make decisions and be responsible.

44 posted on 01/24/2002 8:06:02 AM PST by chantal7
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