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GAY PRO-LIFE LEADERS ARRESTED AT NATIONAL PRO-LIFE MARCH
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| Jan 22, 2002
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Posted on 01/23/2002 6:22:00 AM PST by helmsman
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To: helmsman
It appears the group is more concerned with pushing its "gay" agenda than with protesting legalized abortion. Ending the slaughter of unborn children has nothing to do with the type of sexual activity one might enjoy in his or her private life. It looks to me like they went out looking for a fight (so they could whine about their mistreatment), and found one.
To: helmsman
not really, but I appreciate your tenacious civility.
To: madprof98
PLAGAL shows up at Gay Pride rallies to make the point that people need not agree with all the views of the conservative Right in order to take a stand against the tragedy of abortion.You are absolutely right as usual, madprof98. The pro-life movement is hurt if it's image is one of exclusion and intolerance. One need not approve of a group's lifestyle to accept it's help in a just and righteous cause.
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01/23/2002 7:01:11 AM PST
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helmsman
To: ArGee
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To: helmsman
Your source is suspect!
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01/23/2002 7:03:52 AM PST
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verity
To: AmericanInTokyo
IMHO, it seems to be a subtle, clever ploy to promote the gay agenda within prolife circles (infiltration, co-option, slick PR) than a viceversa of a pro-life co-opting of the gay movement. That seems likely. If they were really sincere, they could try to test Nellie.
Have a group go next year in white sheets and hoods. Let them carry a banner proclaiming, "Klansmen for Life." If Nellie doesn't ask that they be removed, I'll agree with the homosexuals that they are being mistreated. I suspect that "Klansmen for Life" wouldn't be tolerated.
And I would expect those homosexuals to jumpt to the defense of the Klansmen and demand that Nellie let everyone in who wants in.
Shalom.
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01/23/2002 7:04:47 AM PST
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ArGee
To: verity
Your source is suspect!Because they're gay? Is that the only reason they are automatically suspect?
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01/23/2002 7:07:08 AM PST
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helmsman
To: helmsman
I don't see how not reproducing is equivalent to killing or death. It isn't directly. But both abortion and homosexual "pride" are symptoms of the same evil, the idea that human beings can establish their own moral order based on their own understanding of how things work. We're eating of the same fruit of which Adam and Eve ate, and it's bearing the same destructive fruit. Abortion and homosexuality are two results of that fruit.
Shalom.
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01/23/2002 7:08:02 AM PST
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ArGee
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To: verity
The same information (minus the quotes from PLAGAL) was posted on the Pro-Life Infonet this morning. It came from a newswire article. I think the general reaction to this post here indicates the problem which most holds back the pro-life movement. Pro-lifers seem willing to embrace just about any group that claims the mantle of conservatism but shun everybody else. Unfortunately, the groups claiming that mantle are not in the majority in this country, and more mainstream people (many of them distressed about abortion) are not willing to associate themselves with those they consider to be on the political and social fringe of society.
To: sheik yerbouty
I am sure there is more to this than the above printed word.
To: helmsman
Personally, I'm fascinated that such a subculture exists. Gay pro-lifers! Just goes to show you when you think you've seen it all, you haven't, especially in this country.
To: helmsman
The right to life movement is all about "intolerance" and a majority component in the movement is "Christian Morality". Christians should not tolerate Murder or Homosexuality. Its bad enough that we have to live in a secular society. Being forced to deny our beliefs by presenting ourselves as Inclusive for the sake of diversity should also not be tolerated.
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01/23/2002 7:12:07 AM PST
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Khepera
To: Fee
That's an interesting point, one I hadn't considered. Of course, there will never really be such proof, because such a claim is false, just like the claim that genes determine who becomes a criminal or not. However, from the standpoint of the homosexual, and their belief system reguarding genetics, I can see why they would be interested in the pro-life movement for that very reason. I agree.
To: AppyPappy
They couldn't just march for life...again and again, it's all about the "homosexual agenda".
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01/23/2002 7:16:57 AM PST
by
Osinski
To: helmsman
So now, thanks to Nellie Gray's actions, the March For Life, which is supposed to be about saving babies from abortion, has been turned into a controversy about homosexual pro-lifers and their right to protest alongside others.Wherein lies the problem. They couldn't simply show up with signs and protest like the others; they had to identify themselves as homosexuals, and grab some of the spotlight.
I'm sure the rest of the protestors didn't identify themselves as "Heterosexuals for Life"; they always have to interject that into everything they do.
Why in this case? Undoubtably more for PR than anything.
To: helmsman
Why would they show up for this?
To: helmsman
Because they're gay? Is that the only reason they are automatically suspect? YES... You have a problem with that? The sodomite community pushes the homosexual agenda and the Christian Community does not need their input.
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01/23/2002 7:17:36 AM PST
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Khepera
To: helmsman
"Nellie Gray, in a meeting a few years ago, stated PLAGAL may participate in the March for Life so long as we do not identify ourselves as lesbians and gays," stated Moses Remedios, VP for Media Relations. "That's as offensive as telling an African American, 'you can ride on the bus, but just sit in the back.'" Everything is always about them. I'm sure the pro-life cause was a secondary consideration, if one at all.
To: Khepera
The right to life movement is all about "intolerance" and a majority component in the movement is "Christian Morality".Yes, but many of us have come to our pro-life convictions based not on religious teaching, but on rational examination. Nobody is suggesting that Nellie Gray should have adopted the beliefs or lifestyle of the members of PLAGAL, only that she should have allowed them to protest alongside other pro-lifers in unity.
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01/23/2002 7:19:08 AM PST
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helmsman
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