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AFGHAN GIRLS GET AUCTIONED OFF IN PAKISTAN
THE HINDUSTAN TIMES ^ | JANUARY 23, 2002 11:02:42 PM

Posted on 01/22/2002 11:21:58 PM PST by Madiuq

Girls, five to 17 years old, and young boys — daughters and sons of Afghan refugees — are being auctioned off in the lawless frontier areas of Pakistan, according to a US newspaper.

In a dispatch from Jamrud, Pakistan, The Washington Times reported that the girls are sold into prostitution or live-in servitude in Pakistan, or join the harems of the rich in West Asia, while the boys are in demand for camel races.

The trade, the paper said, is thriving. Girls are auctioned off in a large rectangular room where intricate Afghan carpets cover the floor and pillows serve as seats for low tables.

Buyers puff on hookahs as the girls, escorted by an elderly woman, walk to a dais in the centre of the room dressed only in thin cotton smocks. Before purchase, a buyer has the right to remove the tunic and inspect the girl in front of the crowd.

Dozens of locals say Afghan girls between the ages of 5 and 17 are sold in the range of $80-100. The price depends on the colour of their eyes and skin. If they are virgins, the price is higher.


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To: Madiuq
Is it true that Islam permits a man to have an intimate realationship with both his wife and his servant/slave girl?

Assalamalikaum mufti sahib. A few brothers approached me and put to me that Islam allows a man to have a relationship with both his wife and his slave/servant girl. Is this true, and if so what is the case if there is more than one slave/servant girl as I thought that in Islam, a man is only allowed to have an intimate relationship with his wife/s only and no one else. Jazakallah khair for your help

Answer 4533 2002-01-03

A man may have intimate relations with his wife or slave girl. This applies no matter how many slave girls one may possess. He may not have intimate relations with his servant. A slave is one whom one physically owns. Since slavery is not in vogue nowadays, this does not apply today.

Refer attached, 'Slavery'

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai FATWA DEPT.

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=4533

21 posted on 01/23/2002 5:41:29 AM PST by FITZ
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To: dougherty
With all due respect, I have always been told that it is very difficult to adopt children in our own country. Supposedly that is why there are so many foreign adoptions. Take care and God bless.
22 posted on 01/23/2002 5:56:47 AM PST by Enough_Deceit
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To: FITZ
I am begining to think the Muslim religion really does stink. It sounds as if it is a religion made up for MEN so that they can be blessed while acting like animals.
23 posted on 01/23/2002 6:00:48 AM PST by Republic
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To: Enough_Deceit
My cousin adopted a baby from South America. It was still expensive. The reason that she did this, though, was the birth mother can't change her mind in a year and try to regain custody.

A lot of people go outside the US for this reason- they don't want to go through a nightmare custody battle and maybe lose.

24 posted on 01/23/2002 6:09:25 AM PST by SCalGal
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To: Dog Gone
If you recall, there was an earlier thread referring to young boys, "adopted" from Bangladesh for Saudi "parents", who were held while in transit through India. It was suspected that they were actually destined to be sold as came jockeys. What happens to them after they grow up is not known!
25 posted on 01/23/2002 6:32:39 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: eclectic
Paltz: "American families willing to adopt Afghan orphans"

Eclectic: "This nation is sick"

Am I misinterpreting what you mean? Are you saying it's "sick" for American families to want to help orphaned children? Because that's what it sure sounds like you are saying...

26 posted on 01/23/2002 6:36:40 AM PST by Dawntreader
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To: Madiuq
This auction thing could have come in handy for my oldest son when he was a teenager.
27 posted on 01/23/2002 6:53:00 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
It's simple- we needed to get through Pakistan to get to Afghanistan. It's not an 'alliance' so much as it is expedient. We're just as 'allied' with India, the avowed enemy of Pakistan.

Pakistan is not what we would consider a unified country. Originally, Pakistan was made up of land taken from a slightly older Afghanistan and land taken from India. The hope was that the similar cultures of the parts would be cohesive. But in the end, the chunk of Pakistan up there next to Afghanistan remains alienated from the southern part of Pakistan, so much so that the pieces may as well be two countries. The central government of Pakistan rules over the south but the inhospitable north is for all practical purposes lawless. Things go on there that the government has no power to stop or regulate.

You get a mild version of that when you compare Quebec with the rest of Canada. Or Northern Ireland with the rest of Great Britain. Or eventually, what we'll see in the southwestern US when compared with the rest of the country. Once group or tribal identity becomes more critical than nationality, nations lose their cohesiveness and risk civil war, anarchy, or at least increasing lawlessness.

28 posted on 01/23/2002 6:55:00 AM PST by piasa
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To: Madiuq
We should buy them and send them to GITMO. They would get better treatment.
29 posted on 01/23/2002 6:56:45 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: xm177e2
...not being carried out with support from the Pak government.

Oh, good!It had me worried for minute that it was all being handled through the Ministry of Surplus Property Disposal! < /sarcasm>

For a military dictatorship with the capacity to install an unpopular government in a foriegn country and support its world-wide and cross-border terorist activities, you'd think they have enough power to control this lawlessnes. Unless, the Islamic country believes this practice is consistent with its religion.

30 posted on 01/23/2002 7:23:09 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: FITZ
I like it. Mufti Ebrahim Desai FATWA DEPT. says: "Since slavery is not in vogue nowadays..."
31 posted on 01/23/2002 7:28:40 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: dandelion
It's not about feeling good... it's about DOING good.

The Prime Directive of liberalism: FEELING good about oneself is the most important thing in all the world, while DOING good is for fools.

32 posted on 01/23/2002 7:31:16 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Madiuq
Those who criticize Christians should read this.
33 posted on 01/23/2002 7:31:28 AM PST by makingsense
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To: mikeIII
I don't recall that thread, but almost nothing would surprise me from that part of the world. It is a culture where life is cheap.

You see it in the brutality that occurred in Afghanistan, both by and against the Taliban. You see it in the slave trade. You see it in the eagerness by some to die as "martyrs" for the cause of the day.

Maybe it's because of the enormous population in that region, and some of the squalid living conditions. Maybe it's just the culture. I'm not sure.

But it certainly makes me glad that I live in America.

34 posted on 01/23/2002 7:36:53 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
It's Islam!
35 posted on 01/23/2002 7:49:47 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: jimmyBEEgood
Yes, sadly I think it's true.
36 posted on 01/23/2002 11:10:44 AM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: dougherty
Actually, with you on that one - we have so many children here who desperately need families. But thousands of American children are denied adoption by the state because of racial barriers - "white" and mixed-race couples are not allowed to adopt anyone but their "own" races.

Until the state decides to extend to multi-racial families the same legal recognition that the state extends to "gay" and "transgendered" adoptive families, it will become more and more difficult for our American children to find loving homes.

37 posted on 01/23/2002 11:56:57 AM PST by dandelion
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To: Madiuq
Buyers puff on hookahs as the girls, escorted by an elderly woman, walk to a dais in the centre of the room dressed only in thin cotton smocks.

This is a terrible state of affairs. And these 'elderly women' sicken me. Don't they know what they are doing to these little girls?

BTW...what's a hookah?

38 posted on 01/23/2002 12:04:51 PM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
A Hookah? It's either something used to smoke drugs, or the way a New Yorker pronounces prostitute.
39 posted on 01/23/2002 12:57:51 PM PST by Madiuq
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