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Chinese Eyes Territorial Claim Of Outer Space
spacedaily.com ^ | 21 Jan 02 | Wei Long

Posted on 01/20/2002 7:59:42 PM PST by RightWhale

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-02f.html

DRAGON SPACE

Chinese Eyes Territorial Claim Of Outer Space

by Wei Long

Beijing - Jan 21, 2002

A group of Chinese space scientists urged the government to accelerate acceptance of the proposal to develop an infrastructure in space and regard developing the "space territory" as a national strategy, the Hong Kong Bureau of the China News Agency reported last Tuesday (Jan. 15). The group also suggested to claim access to space as China's "fourth territory".

In the recently submitted consultation report "Building of China's Space-based Infrastructure", space technology specialist Wang Xiji of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) and three other Academy colleagues contended that conventional ground-based space facilities would no longer meet future requirements, so they proposed the construction of a space-based infrastructure. The report said that "opening up of outer space would require infrastructure in space; much like development of land, sea and air which require ground facilities such as railroads, sea ports, power stations and airports."

Wang elaborated on the concept: "The so-called space-based infrastructure refers to the engineering system that will be built in space, and used in developing and exploiting space resources and expanding the habitation space of humankind.

"The system will consist of space vehicles and their ground supporting facilities which would provide long-term stable functions and services. In fact, it is an integration of space- and ground-based national development of strategic infrastructure."

The group of CAS space specialists also argued that by virtue of having "vehicles that take up positions in space and the ability to possess part of the space resources", a country would effectively extend its three territorial claims -- land, sea and air -- into space; thus the claim of the "fourth territory".

The 1967 United Nations "Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies" declares that the benefits and interests in the exploration and use of outer space belongs to the "province of all mankind".

Chinese space scientists recognize that there is a fierce competition of space resources, but most nations do not currently have the capability to be a participant. Therefore China should not miss out the opportunity to be part of the "space civilization".

According to the authors of the consultation report, China has "in effect a substantial capacity to enter, develop and exploit space. One of the reasons that China has not utilized its full capacity is restricted by a lag in the consciousness of the people and the nation.

"For a long time China has not given a serious regard to its capability to develop, exploit as well as reap huge political, military and economic benefits from the 'fourth territory'. Speaking from this sense, the concept and perspective of 'space territory' needs vigorous promotion in China. Developing 'space territory' should be treated as a fundamental national strategy along with birth control planning and environment protection."

The report recommends eight areas of space-based infrastructure:

* Discuss issues in building a high-speed information highway; * Increase steadily the level of performance in meteorology infrastructure; * Plan resource [Ziyuan series] satellites as part of the national earth-resource infrastructure; * Establish a 3-D navigation and positioning infrastructure based on the existing twin [Beidou series] navigation and positioning satellites foundation;

* Establish a national geographic information infrastructure based on the survey satellite foundation;

* Planned development of the ocean [Haiyang series] satellites into an ocean observation, monitoring and research infrastructure;

* Develop as quickly as possible a disaster and environment monitoring infrastructure;

* Develop a comprehensive civilian information network suitable for use during wartime.

To implement the proposed space-based infrastructure, the report suggests to take a three-stage approach:

1. Use effectively satellites that are on-orbit and under development, and place them in the top tier of planning as a starting foundation. This stage would mark a change in the direction of Chinese space technology development: from primarily technology of entering space to technology of utilizing space functions.

2. Build and effectively use an elementary comprehensive information network, which would provide effective support of the national development of the space-based infrastructure. This stage would mark the completion of an elementary space-based infrastructure. Chinese space technology development enters the phase of fulfilling urgent requirements and gradually adapting to national development.

3. Develop sequentially the space-based infrastructure according to the blueprint. This stage would mark the initial achievement of the strategic development of China's "fourth territory". The space-based infrastructure would have formed a definite scale and continue to develop to perfection.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: space
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To: RightWhale
Very interesting. I suspected they would do this. They're going to set foot on the moon in about 10 years and their going to claim it or at least part of it. Stupid treaties, they're only as good as the paper they're printed on. Maybe we'll have the good sense to renegotiate some of these liberal do-gooder dunder-head treaties with an eye on serious commercial and military development. We should do this before they get to the moon instead of waiting for a crisis to develop.
21 posted on 01/20/2002 8:26:57 PM PST by Brett66
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
It's mine. LEAVE IT ALONE!
22 posted on 01/20/2002 8:28:39 PM PST by lizma
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To: borghead
Space should be privatized it will go nowhere until then. The FAA and NASA just won'tlet private citizens launch rockets.
23 posted on 01/20/2002 8:28:47 PM PST by weikel
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To: borghead
The Chinese may be about 40 years behind us, but we went to the moon 33 years ago. Looks like they might be celebrating the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11 on the moon as we humbly look on with a sense of lost greatness.
24 posted on 01/20/2002 8:31:41 PM PST by Brett66
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
I'm not intending to be critical, but I sat and thunk for a minute what space technology America might have that somebody would want. Anybody that wants to rent a ride can pick and choose between several good civilian boosters. The security gaffe that Loral committed was related to missile guidance, but the cat is out of the bag on that. The hybrid rocket from Thiokol was just testfired, but that's 60-year old technology.

If China wants to do this, nothing is stopping them except their own budget.

25 posted on 01/20/2002 8:37:46 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Will we have to apologize when they force the space shuttle down?
26 posted on 01/20/2002 8:38:34 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: weikel
The FAA and NASA just won't let private citizens launch rockets

This whole impediment to human progress could be cleared up by Presidential fiat. One year in office, and still nothing about property rights in space. He said through his campaign spokesmen that he would look into it. We're waiting.

27 posted on 01/20/2002 8:41:00 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Jhoffa_
Will we have to apologize when they force the space shuttle down?

And pay room and board as well as landing fees.

28 posted on 01/20/2002 8:42:04 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
I like Bush he is a busy guy and I agree space should be privatized but he should figure out how 1st. Bush is busy now with a warwe will probably be waiting awhile.
29 posted on 01/20/2002 8:44:36 PM PST by weikel
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To: weikel
The FAA and NASA just won'tlet private citizens launch rockets.

I believe you have to get approval of the rocket's flight plan,if it's big enough, with the FAA. Other than that, I don't believe there is anything to prevent a private individual from launching their own rocket.

Here's some guys that do it all of the time:

High Plains Rocket Society

Project HALO

National Association of Rocketry

31 posted on 01/20/2002 8:46:28 PM PST by Brett66
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To: RightWhale
Luna and all of space belong to the U.N. and private property is specifically outlawed.

We pulled out of the ABM treaty, I say we pull out of the U.N. Moon treaty (leave the U.N. altogether actually).

32 posted on 01/20/2002 8:49:44 PM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; goldilucky; BeAChooser; KLT; Snow Bunny; Victoria Delsoul
More B. S. from the bastard Communist Chinese elite!
33 posted on 01/20/2002 8:50:30 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: JoeEveryman
I've heard about this guy and I've visited his website. I've heard experts in space law comment on his claims. They don't seem to think he has a real claim to anything. I was tempted to purchase a piece of the moon though. It's pretty cheap. :)
34 posted on 01/20/2002 8:51:09 PM PST by Brett66
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To: RightWhale
"China has a plan. Their plan does not include NASA or America."

Yep! bttt

35 posted on 01/20/2002 8:51:20 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: JoeEveryman
Hmmm I should buy one when I get outta College.
36 posted on 01/20/2002 8:52:03 PM PST by weikel
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To: JoeEveryman
Hmm he'll have a lobby of people he has already sold pieces of the moon to back him up seems pretty smart to me.
38 posted on 01/20/2002 9:08:35 PM PST by weikel
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To: JoeEveryman
I just found an excellent site that breaks down his claims point by point and pretty much nukes them:

2.2. Arguments for Invalidating the "Extraterrestrial Real Estate" Claims

The first reason for invalidating the claims presented above is the lack of corpus possidendi. In the acquisition of possession, two concurrent elements - "the mind" and "the body" are required. One is insufficient without another; there must be "both an intention to take the thing and some act of a physical nature giving effect to that intention25". The first element required is the animus possidendi, the intention to possess. However, Dennis Hope can not own the Moon just because he wants to. He lacks the second element required in the acquisition of possession, namely the corpus possidendi; without an act of physical nature giving effect to the intention to take the thing, animus is insufficient. The Scottish jurist Stair has explained this in very illustrative terms: "if any act of the mind were enough, possession would be very large and but imaginary.26" As large as the Solar System, in the case of Hope, that has a very valid animus, but no corpus at all.

Here's a link to the rest of the article:

Lunar Real Estate: Buyer, Beware!

39 posted on 01/20/2002 9:10:17 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Brett66
Seems like an individual Chinese taikonaut could claim it if he sets foot there and that might hold up under legal scrutiny. Could he then give it to the Chinese government? I think they need to take a serious look at these silly laws. They're woefully inadequate to address the mischief that China is getting ready to foist upon us.
40 posted on 01/20/2002 9:14:15 PM PST by Brett66
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