Ahhh!, but you are a liar (and judgmental as well). Let's review:
Post #310 this thread:
You cut yourself off from God a long time ago. I reminded you of the way, and as far as I am concerned, I have done my duty. - Faith_j
Revelation 22
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Jerry_M post #363 this thread:
You have judged no one? Was I mistaken in thinking that it was you who said to doc: "You cut yourself off from God a long time ago."??
That was not judgmental? That was not a judgment on your part as to the state of the_doc's salvation?
You need to recognize that you cannot just rationalize away lies by denying them. The truth is there for all to see. I still contend that your words will bring you serious harm (as does your lack of truth concerning them). Repent.
Faith_j response post #367 this thread:
I didn't judge doc, I offered my observation. And my observation is you all have cut yourself off from the Bride of Christ, because what the Bride of Christ says is not what you say. I didn't cut you off, you cut yourself out of the Bride.
Now, the reason you are a liar is because I have posted to you the Revelation 22 verse first and in several posts explained its meaning in the previous thread I started called Particular Redemption:
Post #22:
The Blood of Christ is Sufficient - ValerieUSA
And anyone who is thirsty is invited to come and drink the waters of life. (John 7:37, Revelation 22:17) - CCWoody.
Post #26:
So much for the heresy known as limited atonement. - Faith_j
Post #42 (in part) CCWoody:
Actually, as a Calvinist and a Bible reading Christian, I do believe in the limited atonemnt and do believe that it is plainly revealed from Scripture. The key words in the above Biblical paraphrase is if anyone is thirsty then they indeed have the desire to drink from the waters of life freely.
Post #70 (in part) CCWoody:
Anybody that desires may take freely of the living waters. But one must in point of fact be thirsty. Not everybody is, as I know that you know. Hell, after all, is never satisfied.
O God, Thou art my God; early will I seek Thee. My soul thirsteth for Thee, my flesh longeth for Thee, in a dry and thirsty land where no water is, to see Thy power and Thy glory as I have seen Thee in the sanctuary.
I fully affirm that whosoever is thirsty will take of the waters of life freely. I simply could not call myself a Calvinist if I believed otherwise. And yet, the Atonement is limited and particular.
And even if one one believes that dead in trespass and sin is not really dead and that anybody can freely take of the living waters, then one has in no way set aside that the Atonement is either limited or particular in nature. For if the foreknowledge of God is only limited to mere observation, we know plainly from the scripture passage above that those and only those whom He foreknew that these were predestined to be conformed by the power of God into the image of His Son and that these He called and justified and glorified.
Who shall lay anything to the charge against God's elect? It is God who justifieth. And though the Accuser stands day and night in accusation I have tasted freely of my Lord and seen that He is good and He may merely respond: "I have this one covered."
Faith, the evidence is here in black and white. You are a liar.
You knew my position and the Calvinist position. It was explained to you on Jan 11, 2002. None of us has "cut ourselves off from God a long time ago." You knew full well before you said what you did that none of us denies this Bible verse.
In response to the thirst which HE caused to happen ,He then had the water flow from the rock for them And that Rock is Christ!
He cause the thirst and the remedy.As we are told in Exodus all for HIS glory!!!
Yea GOD!!!
Nothing really new here .....but I just wanted to bring everyone back to He who causes us to thirst!! "Let all that thirst COME!"
If the Atonement is limited, it is only so in application, not in potential. Personally, I think it's a poor choice of terms, because it seems to make God to be a respecter of persons, when that is not the case. The main fault I find with Calvinism is the constant wrangling about small words, and rigid adherence to doctrines that, while they may be technically accurate, are presented in such a high-handed and condescending way as to make them repugnant to the average listener. That, and many Calvinists (you included) wear it as a badge of honor, much as the Early Church whom Paul rebuked for saying "I am of Cephas, I am of Apollos, or I am of Paul". You are a Christian who happens to hold the Calvinist doctrinal position, not a Calvinist who happens to hold the Christian position. A subtle distinction, but a necessary one to remind you of, I think.
If you say "we do so to stress our understanding of scripture", you are in effect saying that you feel the need to "help" God keep people on the "straight and narrow" as you see it, and are not totally relying on God's Holy Spirit to lead people into truth. You feel you must be on the front lines, making sure that everyone understands just how important Calvin's doctrines are to the salvation of others. Funny, I thought Jesus was the most important part of salvation, not Calvinism...