Posted on 01/20/2002 4:46:48 PM PST by CFW
Baumgart, Doyle Propose Gun Ban
Pump Shotguns and Most Other Firearms Banned
Virtually every gun used to hunt in Wisconsin would be illegal to use under a bill authored by Senator Jim Baumgart at the request Attorney General Jim Doyle. The supposed terrorism legislation would outlaw the use of any pump, lever or bolt action rifle or shotgun as well as any revolver or semi-automatic firearm for hunting, self-defense or target practice.
In fact, only single-shot firearms, less than one-percent of all firearms, could be used by anyone except law enforcement and the military. Anyone using a firearm that holds more than one bullet or even owning a single bullet would be guilty of a Felony.
“If Baumgart and Doyle get their way, every hunter in Wisconsin would be an instant criminal, facing prison and a lifetime loss of voting rights,” said state Senator Dave Zien (R-Wheaton).
“Reloading your own shotgun shells could send you to prison for 15-years.” Rather than ban firearms outright, Doyle and Baumgart ban all types of ammunition by defining the bullet as both a “destructive device” and an “explosive,” the gunpowder as an “explosive” and even the tiny primer that ignites every bullet is specifically called a “detonator.”
Owning, possessing or using any of these items would be a felony offense, unless the citizens could prove they were only for use in “firearms that are designed to shoot no more than one shot without manual reloading” (i.e. single shot firearms).
“Can you imagine a Wisconsin elected official outlawing the use every pump shotgun and labeling every duck hunter a terrorist?” asked Zien. “Maybe the Attorney General should concentrate on the real terrorists and leave law-abiding gun owners alone.”
The bill even goes as far as allowing photographs of a person with banned material to be used as evidence of a crime. “This will make the picture of a hunter with her Remington 870 and a trophy buck evidence of terrorist activity,” said Zien.
In 1998, Wisconsin voters amended the state Constitution to protect the right of law-abiding citizens to posses and use firearms. Because the Constitution prevents Doyle from banning the gun, the only way he can deny hunters the use of their guns is to ban the ammunition.
“It is no wonder people are cynical about their government,” said Zien, author of Wisconsin’s Right to Keep and Bear Arms. “When the attorney charged with upholding our Constitution deliberately tries to thwart that Constitution and deny the will of the people, it gives all public servants a bad name.”
Information on the Attorney General’s website describing the points of Doyle’s “Anti-Terrorism Legislative Package” mentions nothing about the gun ban provisions. Zien noted the information distributed to legislators also mentioned nothing about the bans. Doyle can only propose the language to legislators. The legislative author (Baumgart) takes whatever he chooses from Doyle’s draft and introduces his own bill.
Baumgart likewise mentions nothing about the bans in his memo to legislators asking them to join as cosponsors of his bill.
The point is, Wisconsin is not a lost cause. Most of the media in the state is hoplessly Socialist, but if the word gets out, much of the state is very conservative. Doyle is one of the most anti-gun politicians in the state. As Attorney General, he almost singlehandedly has prevented a shall-issure concealed carry bill from passing, year after year.
the 2nd Amendment IS ABOUT STOPPING THUGS FROM HUNTING YOUR FAMILY!...........................we can give credit to Oleg( http://www.a-human-right.com/ ) for this one. Move to south Texas, quit shoveling snow, and carry? sorry.....
I never said you were for the ban, and figured you probably wern't. But what is an assault weapon? That's my main complain. It's the term itself. An assault RIFLE can fire full auto. The term assault weapon was a takeoff created by VPC's Josh Sugarmann. His term is so well known, that even pro-2aers are using it now.
Call it sematics, that's what bothers me so much.
I would recommend their use in bludgeoning idiot politicians. Someone has to recall this turd.
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Nonetheless, it is hard to imagine that elected officials in the United States of America, who obviously know the intent of our Founding Fathers, would advocate banning guns.
The folks in Winsconson should be up in arms over this proposal. It is a slap at the citizens in Winsconson and the United States Bill of Rights.
Something is seriously amiss in Winsconson.
Hell to pay, I am starting to doubt it. It seems like every time government takes a right from the people, they just sit there and take the abuse.
Fuel/air bombs are one of the military's neater toys...
My reading of this clause about overpressure devices is that it could potentially ban air conditioning, air compressors, pneumatic BB guns, pneumatic tires, and any device which uses pressure as part of its function and is capable of causing bodily harm (come to think of it, the air in a politician's lungs is under pressure and capable of causing great harm. Hmmm . . . ). The next clause (I didn't post that) would ban nail guns that use Remington CB caps to drive them into concrete.
How stupid can a legislator be? I'm not sure there's a way to express a less than zero IQ.
Hey, you knucklehead, you just gave me a heart-attack reading the headline! Finally saw the date on this - whew, I don't need any coffee now! That one woke me right up! ;o)
Sorry. I didn't notice the date until the mouse had clicked.
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