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To: codebreaker
... I didn't think the law allowed abortions in the trimester
65 posted on 01/19/2002 12:56:34 PM PST by RKBA_Champ
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To: RKBA_Champ
... I didn't think the law allowed abortions in the trimester

There ya go not thinkin'again. Please realize the horror. 3rd Day 3rd Trimester = no difference.

67 posted on 01/19/2002 1:01:27 PM PST by Khepera
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To: RKBA_Champ
Most other"civilized" countries of the World forbid abortion or only allow abortion in the first trimester for rape, incest or the life of the mother. Most also require tyhis surgery to take place in hospitals.

Not this country. Our Roe V Wade Court said anything goes.

Our current Supreme Court "majority" ruled in favor of the abortionist -- who on record described in every gory detail -- his method of partial birth abortion up to end of third trimester.

Published Thursday
April 20, 2000

Dilation and Extraction Procedure Surfaced in 1992
rBrBY JUDITH NYGREN,WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

At the heart of Nebraska's "partial-birth" abortion ban is a procedure pioneered by a Cincinnati doctor.

Dr. Martin Haskell presented a paper in early 1992 detailing what he called dilation and extraction. The anti-abortion movement has labeled it "partial-birth" abortion. As outlined by Haskell, the procedure involves dilating a woman's cervix over a three-day period. On the third day, the surgeon uses forceps to grab a leg of a living fetus and pulls it into the vagina.

The surgeon uses his finger to deliver the opposite leg into the vagina, then the torso, the shoulders and the arms. Usually there is not enough room for the head to pass into the vagina, so the surgeon forces a pair of scissors into the base of the skull and spreads the scissors to enlarge the opening.

After the scissors are removed, the surgeon inserts a suction catheter into the hole and sucks out the brain to reduce the size of the head. The entire fetus then can be removed.

Haskell said he used the D&X procedure with all women who were 20 to 24 weeks pregnant and with selected patients between 25 and 26 weeks of pregnancy.

The State of Nebraska considers a fetus born before 20 weeks to have no chance of survival, while a fetus born at 24 weeks is considered to have about a 55 percent chance of survival.

Dr. LeRoy Carhart, the Bellevue abortion provider who challenged Nebraska's ban as unconstitutional, testified in U.S. District Court that he does not abort viable fetuses. With most of his patients who are between 16 and 20 weeks pregnant, he tries to perform a D&X. Carhart told the judge that he strives to deliver a fetus intact during the second trimester because he considers it a safe procedure that protects the woman's health.

But his actual success with a D&X through the 19th week is low - less than 5 percent to 10 percent. The tissue, Carhart testified, is so soft at this point that the fetus is easily torn apart.

Carhart also testified that, unlike Haskell, he doesn't manipulate the fetus into a feet-first position. He removes it head first or feet first depending on its natural position.

In a head-first abortion, Carhart uses dilation and evacuation - or D&E - dismembering the fetus rather than delivering it intact. If it presents itself feet-first, Carhart will either puncture the skull or crush it before completing the abortion.

After the 20th week, Carhart typically kills the fetus by injection 48 to 72 hours before beginning the abortion. Thus, the judge ruled, the state's ban wouldn't apply to his later abortions because the fetus is already dead when it enters the vagina.

Carhart doesn't use a lethal injection on the fetus between weeks 16 and 20 because the waiting time between injection and abortion is only 12 to 24 hours and the fetal tissue doesn't change enough to make it the best procedural choice.

Carhart has said that he performs an average of 1,200 abortions a year, about 20 of which are D&X procedures.

83 posted on 01/19/2002 1:48:06 PM PST by victim soul
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