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Was Richard Reid 'Shoe Bomber No. 2'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/17/02 | Debkafile

Posted on 01/17/2002 4:02:31 PM PST by gohabsgo

Was Richard Reid, the Briton indicted this week on charges of attempted murder -- after failing to blow up American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami on Dec. 22 -- the first shoe bomber?

DEBKA-Net-Weekly reports a spreading conviction among aviation and counter-terror experts that he was Shoe Bomber No. 2, and that American Airlines Flight 587 was brought down 40 days earlier over Queens, N.Y., by Shoe Bomber No. 1.

Their argument springs from a simple question: Why did not Reid simply lock himself in the bathroom and ignite the fuse to the bomb without risk of interference? The answer is that he was instructed to position himself in window seat No. A 19, next to where the wing attaches to the body of the plane to follow the example of Shoe Bomber No. 1.

A bomb exploding in this position would allow the plastic explosive to erupt through the wall of the cabin and rupture the wing where jet fuel is stored. This position was also close to the center fuel tank in the body of the plane between the wings. If Reid had not been wrestled down by the flight attendants and passengers, the explosives in his shoes would have ripped a hole in the side of the plane and then ignited the fuel stored in the wing.

This, according to DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources, is precisely what happened on the AA flight 587 Airbus bound for Santo Domingo, 40 days previously, with tragic consequences. All 255 passengers and crew died, as well as five people on the ground.

The official explanation is that the crash was caused by turbulence from another jet, mechanical defects in the composite materials in the tail of the plane -- causing the tail to fall off -- and pilot error. DEBKA's sources say that explanation does not cover the evidence. Several witnesses report that a small explosion occurred on the right-hand side of the fuselage, before the second big explosion on the right wing. “It was only then that the plane fell apart.”

As the plane nose-dived, the tail section dropped off and then both engines separated from the airliner, each engine landing over 800 feet away from the crash site. One aviation expert says there has never been a crash in the history of accidental aviation disasters in which both engines broke away from the plane at the same time.

According to his explanation – based on the physical axiom that every action produces an equal and opposite reaction -- a high-velocity explosion on one side of an airliner will cause expelling gases to create a rocket effect that will push the plane in the opposite direction, which weakened the tail.

With the damaged tail rudder only partially attached to the aircraft, the pilot tried to correct the plane’s attitude by using the rudder foot controls. When the plane did not respond, the pilot would have attempted to push the right rudder harder alternating between his left and right foot. This would have been recorded in the black box as “over response” and therefore pilot error.

The violent sideways motion of the aircraft body, produced by the explosion exhaust, would account for the two jet engines falling to the ground, according to the expert source. Thus, although Shoe Bomber No. 1 got away with carrying out his mission of terror, fortunately for the 197 aboard AA Flight 63 Richard Reid was stopped in the nick of time.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; osamabinladen; richardreid; shoebomber
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To: gohabsgo
I never thought he was the "sole" bomber either. parsy.
21 posted on 01/17/2002 4:18:04 PM PST by parsifal
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To: sidebar moderator
This hardly belongs in Breaking News even though WorldNutDaily labeled it as such.
22 posted on 01/17/2002 4:19:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: gohabsgo
DEBKA is a doubtful source but the hypothesis of a bomb in the rear lavatory should be looked at very carefully.
23 posted on 01/17/2002 4:19:49 PM PST by aculeus
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To: gohabsgo
WND is very much aware of the kind of crap that DEBKA puts out. If WND continues to use DEBKA uncritically as a source, WND should be considered in the same league.
24 posted on 01/17/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by elfman2
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To: RaceBannon
I hate it when I'm right!!!

Me, too! This was my post from December 30, 2001.

I then followed it up with this post from January 2, 2002, and then this one from January 7, 2002.

Uncanny, huh?

-PJ

25 posted on 01/17/2002 4:19:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Nouge
Do you think an Arab could easily pass for a Dominican? Also, the names would mean nothing since apparently these people buy fake passports as easily as we buy the paper.
26 posted on 01/17/2002 4:21:18 PM PST by Burn24
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To: gohabsgo
This is close. The flight data recorder revealed a "sharp lurch to the left." If the shoebomb detonated by the wing, the wing could break at the juncture and fold back along the fuselage...not completely severed. once the wing folded back, wind resistance would violently be reduced on the right side of the plane, as the left wing still drags. The plane would turh slightly sideways like a crab walking. (One witness stated the wings seemed to be dipping back and forth.)

Additionally, once the plane was "fishtailing", sidewards air pressure would be placed on the right side ofthe plane including the tail. The tail could have then sheared off as a result.

Mulitple witnesses saw two explosions BEFORE the tail separated. Shoebomb ("half the size of a car" and fuel "a larger one." coincidentally, the NTSB reported that the cockpit voice recorder revealed two "airframe rattles."

This scenario fits known data AND jives with witness testimony.

28 posted on 01/17/2002 4:25:08 PM PST by copycat
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To: Uncle George
Has it ever been released WHO was setting in those seats on the air bus that crashed?

Time for the government to release the passenger seating data.

29 posted on 01/17/2002 4:26:23 PM PST by copycat
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To: gohabsgo
WorldNutDaily quoting DEBKA. Man...it doesn't seem that far-fetched, but I think I'll wait for someone else to report it.
30 posted on 01/17/2002 4:26:48 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: gohabsgo
This is what I thought when the story about the Shoe Bomber first broke ....
32 posted on 01/17/2002 4:27:20 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Political Junkie Too
Where is the semtex residue?

Why would people smart enough to take down the WTC bomb a plane loade with Dominicans bound for Santo Domingo rather than one loade with Americans bound for Anyplace, USA?

Can you point me to one piece of evidence showing blast?

DEBKA has come up with a theory to fit there conclusion based on zero evidence from what can see.

PS: FYI, I think TWA 800 was a terrorist act.

33 posted on 01/17/2002 4:27:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: aculeus
DEBKA is a doubtful source but the hypothesis of a bomb in the rear lavatory should be looked at very carefully

It crashed right after take off, wouldn't someone demanding they need to go to the bathroom as the plane is taking off be extremely suspicious?
35 posted on 01/17/2002 4:30:39 PM PST by Nouge
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To: Bruce Leroy
Ouch.
36 posted on 01/17/2002 4:31:34 PM PST by Burn24
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To: Political Junkie Too
How about Dec 17?...BEFORE THE SHOEBOMBER.
38 posted on 01/17/2002 4:31:51 PM PST by copycat
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To: gohabsgo
Flight 587 Witnesses Charge Cover-Up
39 posted on 01/17/2002 4:32:26 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: Political Junkie Too
Well, I didnt think it was a sneaker bomb, I was confident that the tail did not fall off due to normal stress, there had to be an outside force that caused a sideways motion to make that much stress to snap the composite material!! (I used to break helicopters for a living, I layed up, formed, and used composite graphite and glass for years in aerospace)
40 posted on 01/17/2002 4:32:37 PM PST by RaceBannon
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