To: Elsie
Elsie,
I don't want to start a holy war here. However, the accounts in the NT were hardly objective. They were written, in part to differentiate Christians from Jews.
This was at a time when the Romans were represing Jews and later slaughtering them during the rebellion. The Christians chose to differentiate themselves for survival.
Later, when Christianity spread to the Hellenistic settlers in the levant and to Romans, it became useful to ensure that the Jews and not the Romans were blamed for the death of Jesus.
The truth is that the accounts are misleading. Jesus was not tried or punished according to Jewish law. Jesus was executed on Passover, when such punishments are banned by the Torah.
Assuming the Sanhedrin tried Jesus (unlikely as this is absent from Roman records), they were not acting freely. Herod, a Nabatean convert, had executed the Sanhedrin when they had poreviously ruled against him. The puppet Sanhedrin was not ruling on the Law, the Torah, or for the people. They were rulling according to the dictates of the non-Judean King who ruled at he behest of the Romans and the Hellenized settlers.
If a crowd of Herodian crooneys had Jesus killed, it is hardly the fault of the Jews of that time, much less ours.
The fact is that a Roman puppet-king had his puppet court convict a man who claimed to be the true king (and thus a threat to his and Roman rule) and handed him over to the Roman governor. It seems to me that hte guilty parties are :
1) The Romans.
2) The illegitimate Roman citizen and non-Judean king
3) The Hellenized Jews who he installed in religious positions, despite their contempt for the Torah.
I don't want to start a fight. Facts are annoying things to fundamentalists, but they remain true.
156 posted on
01/17/2002 4:39:23 PM PST by
rmlew
To: rmlew
Facts are annoying things to fundamentalists
You are quite correct.......
Facts are fundamental.
The truth is that the accounts are misleading.So you say, but still true.
Jesus was not tried or punished according to Jewish law. Jesus was executed on Passover, when such punishments are banned by the Torah.This is true.
Of COURSE He was killed on Passover: that's when the lamb was supposed to have been slain..........
NIV John 1:29
29. The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
NIV Exodus 12:3-11
3. Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb for his family, one for each household.
4. If any household is too small for a whole lamb, they must share one with their nearest neighbor, having taken into account the number of people there are. You are to determine the amount of lamb needed in accordance with what each person will eat.
5. The animals you choose must be year-old males without defect, and you may take them from the sheep or the goats.
6. Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the people of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight.
7. Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the sides and tops of the doorframes of the houses where they eat the lambs.
8. That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast.
9. Do not eat the meat raw or cooked in water, but roast it over the fire--head, legs and inner parts.
10. Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it.
11. This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the LORD's Passover.
It appears that we agree.
157 posted on
01/17/2002 6:37:51 PM PST by
Elsie
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