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To: rmlew
In California as of this writing only one-third of the children being born are white. About 50% are Hispanic and about 6% black and 6% Asain. Therefore the demographic future of California is not white. Do you really expect non-whites to see George Washington as a hero? I know that theoretically they are supposed to but based on what I see around me I doubt they will. With a white minority in California I predict they (non-whites)will put up their own heroes. Who will they be? I don't know---Pancho Villa, Santa Ana, whoever. Again I never said this was either a good or bad thing. I just think that's what will happen. In Hispanic areas (around Los Angeles at least) Cinco Di Mayo is joyously celebrated while the Fourth of July is celebrated far less. At least one member on the L.A. city council voted to fund it with four times the money more than he wanted to fune the 4th of July celebration, saying that Cinco Di Mayo was a more important celebration than the 4th. His statement caused no major uproar in the area. In a famous game between Mexico and the U.S. in L.A., the predominantly Hispanic crowd booed the U.S. team while cheering the Mexican team. They also verbally abused Americans who cheered for the U.S. team. The story came in the L.A. times. I could give you numerous other examples of this (like Korean businessmen spending $20 million to build a statue of some Korean hero I never heard of, I think he stopped a Japanese invasion) but, for the sake of brevity, I won't. You all have a theoretical view of human beings. I'm not saying your view is wrong, it is just based on theory. Human beings in the real world just won't act like that. What people should do and what they actually do are not always the same. Human beings are tribal. They have been that way for 4000 years. I can't see it changing now.
123 posted on 01/16/2002 9:54:37 PM PST by koba
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To: koba
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Could I safely assume that California is a Kosovo of U.S. now? If they implement open border, basically the whole South West will be a defacto Hispanic nation. As you said, human nature at work. Just like in Roman times. By the way, are you prepared to accept another human nature ? Backlash from dominant white group. It has happened everywhere. Human nature works both ways. As a nation, America has to decide. Either to go along or hit a break. It may not be as inevitable as you think. Roman military ceased to be effective when it accepted too many Visgoth without proper indoctrination. They became a barbarian war band. By the same token, all social insitution will be more like Latin America rather than U.S. If you are happy with Mexico stretching from Chiapas to Main and Washington, this won't be a problem. Remember that you will be living in Mexico and any advantages of being in America will evaporate.

134 posted on 01/17/2002 5:45:26 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: koba
Californians are HYSTERICAL when it comes to neighborhoods changing. New Yorkers have had to put up with constantly changing neighborhoods since the 1840s. Such is life. My problem is not so much Californians protesting excessive illegal immigration as much as many people I have met from Cali seem to have thought that their La-La land of perfect middle american suburbia would last forever.
136 posted on 01/17/2002 6:30:58 AM PST by Clemenza
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