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Calling all Culture Warriors
Continental Congress of Art ^ | 1/16/02 | Antoninus

Posted on 01/16/2002 6:35:14 AM PST by Antoninus

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1 posted on 01/16/2002 6:35:14 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Claud
FYI, bump.
2 posted on 01/16/2002 6:45:00 AM PST by Antoninus
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While the implication is that communists have directed the cultural changes cited above, most of those in America who advocate for these leftist positions do not see themselves as communists and they would adamantly deny they support communism in any form. Nevertheless, they have managed the communist agenda rather sucessfully
3 posted on 01/16/2002 6:55:56 AM PST by Rudder
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"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty or forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The Western world will need to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There shall be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate to their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist."

Dmitrii Z. Manuilskii

Lenin School of Political Warfare

Moscow, 1931

4 posted on 01/16/2002 6:57:17 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: coteblanche; sabertooth; susangirl; okimhere; WillaJohns; Registered; proud2bRC; patent...
Bump to poets and others...
5 posted on 01/16/2002 7:01:47 AM PST by Antoninus
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While the implication is that communists have directed the cultural changes cited above, most of those in America who advocate for these leftist positions do not see themselves as communists and they would adamantly deny they support communism in any form. Nevertheless, they have managed the communist agenda rather sucessfully

I fully agree. Let's not forget that the spread of the communist agenda has depended heavily on the enthusiastic support of people they term 'useful idiots' - those who would support their short-term aims and those they proclaimed to the public (peace, workers' rights, racial equality, etc.), even if they were in the dark about their long-term goals.

There is now concrete evidence that foreign-supported members of the Communist Party USA did infiltrate Hollywood starting in the 1930's. All of the members of the 'celebrated' Hollywood 10 were in fact communists, though they were loath to admit it. Given the scorn heaped upon the HUAC investigations of the time by our contemporary 'artists' and 'entertainers', one is forced to wonder how successful this infiltration really was.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the case that our current cultural situation is completely the result of some nefarious covert "communist" infiltration. However, it has always amazed me that the leaders of our cultural and educational institutions, entertainment icons and media outlets all seem to sing from the same song-sheet in terms of political issues.
6 posted on 01/16/2002 7:12:55 AM PST by Antoninus
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"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty or forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The Western world will need to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There shall be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate to their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist."

Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world. I can't find an internet source for it, though. Ever heard it?
7 posted on 01/16/2002 7:16:23 AM PST by Antoninus
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No... but I will look for it.
8 posted on 01/16/2002 7:36:15 AM PST by WarPaint
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Bumpity.
9 posted on 01/16/2002 7:36:59 AM PST by patent
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>>>But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the case that our current cultural situation is completely the result of some nefarious covert "communist" infiltration. However, it has always amazed me that the leaders of our cultural and educational institutions, entertainment icons and media outlets all seem to sing from the same song-sheet in terms of political issues.

They largely play by different rules, going after one institution after another. AS soon as they get a foothold, that foothold is used to bring in more and more people like them. They may not see themselves as communist cells, but for practical purposes they act like them.

patent

10 posted on 01/16/2002 7:38:59 AM PST by patent
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...Shudder!....
11 posted on 01/16/2002 7:43:14 AM PST by redhead
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15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

They have accomplished this. Take a look at the list, then ask yourself how many of these things listed the Democratic Party stands for.

12 posted on 01/16/2002 7:47:53 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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"Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world. I can't find an internet source for it, though. Ever heard it?"

Check this out. (I don't know how to make fancy links.)

http://home.att.net/~dericker/Errors/what_did__hollywood_contri.htm

13 posted on 01/16/2002 7:58:56 AM PST by WarPaint
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Your# 7)Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world

Anti-Christianity=Feminism=Postmodernism=Socialism's Communism=TOTALITARIAN DEMOCRACY=Feminism's Anti-Christianity

14 posted on 01/16/2002 7:59:56 AM PST by maestro
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It is a sad fact of modern conservatism that while we have plenty of cultural critics, we seem to have so few cultural contributors. You can't banish the darkness from a room--you have to bring in the light.

Where is our answer to Hollywood? Where is our answer to the post-modern literary/arts establishment? Why do we always complain about the tripe they put out, and yet fail to put out anything better? Why are we playing by *their* rules, toadying up to their producers, studio executives, galleries, music critics, etc.?

The only way to win the culture war is to actually FIGHT one--and not merely by protesting what is there now, but by superseding and replacing it. *We* conservatives have the scholarship, *we* have the vision, *we* have the timeless values that will be here long after the idiocies of the modern era have passed beyond memory. Then by all means, let's DEVELOP them.

I am sick and tired of hearing conservatives complain about what's out there artistically. Are we mice, and not men? Are we complainers, and not doers? Are we destined to become a movement of crotchety old men, forever condemning, and never constructing? Have we become post-modernists and nihilists ourselves?

If we don't band together on this, the liberals and their feckless "art" will win by default. Cry havoc, conservative artists... and let slip the dogs of war.

15 posted on 01/16/2002 8:02:03 AM PST by Claud
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>>>Cry havoc, conservative artists... and let slip the dogs of war.

If I show you my art you will cry all right. My wife is more the artist, so we have hope for the kids.

patent

16 posted on 01/16/2002 8:07:24 AM PST by patent
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Love doin' the research... but gotta go to work for now. Here's another link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a36e0edd91034.htm

17 posted on 01/16/2002 8:07:31 AM PST by WarPaint
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HOLLYWOOD PARTY - Communism, Communists, and Cinema

Good link.
18 posted on 01/16/2002 9:19:18 AM PST by Antoninus
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Anti-Christianity=Feminism=Postmodernism=Socialism's Communism=TOTALITARIAN DEMOCRACY=Feminism's Anti-Christianity

You forgot a few: Homosexualism=Nihilism=Radical Environmentalism
19 posted on 01/16/2002 9:22:54 AM PST by Antoninus
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Wow, this article should be posted to FR on it's own, if it hasn't been already. Brilliant! Here's a link:

What did Hollywood Contribute to Socialism?
20 posted on 01/16/2002 9:28:30 AM PST by Antoninus
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