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Conservatives (Judicial Watch) turn on Bush over Enron
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 01/12/2002 | Ben Fenton

Posted on 01/11/2002 4:26:46 PM PST by Pokey78

THE White House response to the collapse of Enron, a Texas-based energy company with strong links to the Bush administration, has "shades of Bill Clinton", a conservative watchdog said yesterday.

Judicial Watch, a legal group that pressed Mr Clinton in the latter years of his presidency by investigating every aspect of his personal and professional life, called for a special counsel to investigate the Enron case.

Tom Fitton, the group's president, said: "The White House has a nice little scandal on its hands with Enron and they have only themselves to blame. Their reaction certainly has shades of Bill Clinton." The criticism is an indication of the potential risks of the Enron controversy.

Judicial Watch would normally support a conservative president such as Mr Bush. Enron applied for bankruptcy protection last November after overstating its profits by more than £400 million by hiding huge debts in the accounts of subsidiaries.

Its board is being investigated over allegations that 29 current or former members sold their shares for a total of £785 million in the months before the collapse. Thousands lost jobs and money when the Enron share price collapsed from almost £65 to only a few pence in less than a year.

The Houston-based company has close links to the Bush White House. Kenneth Lay, its chairman, is a friend of both President Bush and his father and was one of the principal fundraisers for the Bush-Cheney election campaign in 1999-2000.

Dick Cheney, the vice-president, had close contacts with Mr Lay when Halliburton, another Houston-based energy company of which he was formerly chief executive, built a baseball stadium for Enron.

Two senior members of the administration, Larry Lindsey, the President's chief economic adviser, and Robert Zoellick, the US trade representative, worked as consultants with Enron before Mr Bush recruited them.

The White House said on Thursday that Mr Lay called on Paul O'Neill, the treasury secretary, and Don Evans, the commerce secretary, to help the company in the days before it collapsed, but added that they had turned him down, despite his close links to the president and his party.

But Mr Fitton yesterday called on the White House to be more open. "Conservatives are very uncomfortable about the relations between the Bush White House and Enron and I doubt you will see many coming forward to defend the conduct, at least so far."

He was particularly critical of Mr Cheney's efforts to prevent the release of the minutes of meetings he and his staff held with Mr Lay and other Enron executives in the process of formulating the administration's energy policy.


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To: Dianna
I was alluding to the fact that so far, there hasn't been one iota of proof of accusation that Bush had anything whatsoever to do with this; even the talking heads on TV, except the raving liberals, all say there is nothing to this and that the Dems are 'hoping' they can spin it into something to hang on Bush.

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I apologize. If we can't get proof, I guess at least some measure of guilt should be present.........but that's just me.......LOL.

201 posted on 01/12/2002 6:23:15 AM PST by Howlin
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To: ratcat
It's an article written for CNN in which he reports a rumor and states it as such.

What's the URL for the article being posted on CNN?

202 posted on 01/12/2002 6:24:44 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Dianna
And campaign cash+ illegal influence will never equal bankruptcy.

Isn't that what I am saying? Maybe I'm not making it clear; IF, a big IF, Enron thought there were going to get some influence for all that money, I don't think bankruptcy is what they had in mine.

203 posted on 01/12/2002 6:27:09 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
"Did you know he is the Conscience of the Senate?"

Its kinda hard to have a conscience when you lied your way all through the election scandal in Florida.

204 posted on 01/12/2002 6:39:06 AM PST by marajade
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To: willyone
"Amnesty for illegals, food stamps for illegals ..."<pThose are outright lies ... There has been no mention of amnesty for illegals nor has then been any mention of food stamps.
205 posted on 01/12/2002 6:42:31 AM PST by marajade
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To: Howlin
In this case, it is becoming obvious that having the "appearance" of a connection can be harmful, not beneficial, to a business. The top executives of Enron (from Kenneth Lay south) are certain to never have a place in the energy business, and likely to never be able to fill a responsible position (one that pays well) in any business for the rest of their lives. They will also be subject to civil and even, potentially, criminal lawsuits. Some of the suits will target their personal assets. The financial septic tank they are sinking into is very deep. And none of them is likely to come out of it whole, or anywhere near whole.

Why are they in such deep doo? Why couldn't they use all of their past and present connections to mitigate this before Enron went down and them with it?

The answer is simple: The Democrats made such a huge class warfare fuss over Bush and Cheney's energy connections during the campaign -- they had claimed at one time that being in the oil business should disqualify them from office, for cryin' out loud -- that this Administration was far more sensitive to an "appearance" of conflict that they didn't lift a pinky to help when Enron called to say they were going down. The Bush Administration KNEW that any help would bring the Democrats out with long-knives -- and that they would never give up on the juicy "inside scandalous deal" to save their oil buddies, while all these working families weren't getting any help from the administration during these tough times.

None of these considerations stopped Clinton and Rubin from bailing out Long Term Capital Management with taxpayer dollars. None have stopped the government from bailing out the airlines. None will stop the government from propping up "employee-owned" United Airlines in the very near future.

But it did stop the Bush Administration from helping Enron. It is a case where not only was all that campaign money that went everywhere wasted -- but their efforts (like every large company) to create contacts in "high places" actually help push along their demise. The Bush Administration had no political choice but to let them crash and burn -- because Enron was in the energy business and because they were from Texas (and because people in the administration had connections). Had Enron been an airline from Colorado or an auto maker from Michigan, the government (the Bush Administration) would have been right there with a bailout package. But they were an energy company from Texas, people who had been supporters of the Administration, and as a result the Administration could only watch helplessly while they crased and burned.

206 posted on 01/12/2002 8:22:53 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
*Sigh* You make SO much sense. And, of course, you're absolutely right.
207 posted on 01/12/2002 8:27:49 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Patriot76
No, I don't think they should have been bailed out.

That isn't my point. My point is, that unlike so many other large companies that have been bailed out with taxpayer money with barely the blink of an eye (particularly from the press), Enron had no chance at getting such help from its "friends" in the Bush Administration. The Administration was too conscious of the "appearance" problem in conjunction with the rabid Democrat class-warfare attacks, the working families being harmed by "big business" layoffs.

While most other companies of Enron's position and size would have come calling to the government and got assistance, the Administration had to cold-shoulder Enron for political reasons.

It was Enron's misfortune to be an energy firm from Texas that had input in Cheney's energy policy deliberations. If they hadn't been all those things they'd have gotten a bailout -- even though they were rotten businessmen.

209 posted on 01/12/2002 8:45:12 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Miss Marple
At any rate, please tell Mr. Fenton to interview people in Washington who don't crank out press releases at the drop of a hat. I know it makes his work a little more difficult, but after all, isn't that why you pay him?

Sincerely yours, (My real name)

Well done. You rock!

210 posted on 01/12/2002 8:51:42 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Howlin
"Everybody that THIS surprises, please raise your hand!

This is me, not raising my hand.
211 posted on 01/12/2002 9:13:37 AM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: sinkspur
I think you missed my point in your post #148. I never said that Klayman has ever actually ever done anything. I guess maybe the title of this thread is misleading, because I don't see Judicial Watch as Conservative.
212 posted on 01/12/2002 9:19:17 AM PST by BUSHdude2000
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To: Patriot76
Why should Bush (us taxpayers) pay it back?
213 posted on 01/12/2002 9:19:42 AM PST by Howlin
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To: BUSHdude2000
They always said they were until Bush won.
214 posted on 01/12/2002 9:20:13 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I'm not disagreeing with you Howlin, but where has JW ever said they were Conservative? I know the media always called them a "Conservative Watchdog group" so as to end their credibility before they reported their "news". And in the long run, JW may be Conservative going after an administration that hasn't been too Conservative thus far. Remember there is a difference between Conservative and Republican. I was at the Freeper Inaugural Ball last year when Klayman was allowed to speak...seemed like the Freepers loved him then.
215 posted on 01/12/2002 9:28:31 AM PST by BUSHdude2000
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Enron was in worse shape than LTCM actually. LTCM had a liquidity problem. In any event, Fisher, who was involved with protecting the markets from the LTCM affair, believed that that concern did not obtain with Enron. That is what the news stories say. It was a policy matter, not a political matter it appears. And, although I am skeptical, the spin from the administration is that Bush was out of the loop.
216 posted on 01/12/2002 9:29:29 AM PST by Torie
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To: Buckeroo
I was posting at 4 in the morning and I tend to "philosophise" way over my own head. But here is my point.

Power will always be located somewhere. If we eliminate government (all govt) from having any power over business, environmental regs, wages, etc. then by default the power will rest with big business.

With business given a free reign, abuse will happen. It always does because people, in general, are corrupt and adding power to the equation will only make that worse.

Unions will strengthen, trying to check the power of CEO's. People could *theoretically vote with their feet, thereby using their power. They could eschew the union, refuse to work for a corrupt or polluting company, and at last gasp attempt to raise their own non-corrupt company.

Most people will NOT do this. They will lodge their power with the company or the union hoping for security.

The whole of our past has led us to today. From robber barons to union thugs to federal intervention. At each step we have been attempting to give the people more protection and more power and have been thwarted at every turn.

We are a unique nation. Also in our past, was a group of men determined to try something which had never been tried before. We need people like that again. Someone needs to forge a new path.

I cannot make myself believe that there IS truly a new path to take. I simply cannot imagine a wholly different type of society. We will either progress further with centralized gov't and crash, or we will retard it's progress with baby steps. At some point, after the socialist crash perhaps, we will start again. But it won't be a new start. It will be the old one all over again..robber barons, union thugs and gov't.

217 posted on 01/12/2002 9:39:02 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Patriot76
He personally benefitted from money that was stolen from workers and investors

How is that? And what dirty campaign money?

BTW, if the employees are stupid enough to put ALL their 401(k) into ONE COMPANY, they got what they deserved; the stock feel from $82 in January to $13 the end of September; as I said last night, that is a heads up for your A$$.

220 posted on 01/12/2002 9:45:09 AM PST by Howlin
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