Clear Evidence for Creation

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[VaBthang4]

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EVIDENCE FOR CREATION… 1. The Fossil Record…Evolutionists have constructed the Geologic Column in order to illustrate the supposed progression of "primitive" life forms to "more complex" systems we observe today. Yet, "since only a small percentage of the earth's surface obeys even a … portion of the geologic column…the claim of their having taken place to form a continuum of rock/life/time…over the earth is therefore a fantastic and imaginative contrivance.1" "[T]he lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to the scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled."2 This supposed column is actually saturated with "polystrate fossils" (fossils extending from one geologic layer to another) that tie all the layers to one time-frame. "[T]o the unprejudiced, the fossil record of plants is in favor of special creation." 3 2. Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field…Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years. 3. The Global Flood… The Biblical record clearly describes a global Flood during Noah's day. Additionally, there are hundreds of Flood traditions handed down through cultures all over the world. 5 M.E. Clark and Henry Voss have demonstrated the scientific validity of such a Flood providing the sedimentary layering we see on every continent. 6 Secular scholars report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers..7 It is now possible to prove the historical reality of the Biblical Flood.8 4. Population Statistics…World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.      5. Radio Halos…Physicist Robert Gentry has reported isolated radio halos of polonuim-214 in crystalline granite. The half-life of this element is 0.000164 seconds! To record the existence of this element in such short time span, the granite must be in crystalline state instantaneously.10 This runs counter to evolutionary estimates of 300 million years for granite to form. 6. Human Artifacts throughout the Geologic Column…Man-made artifacts -  such as the hammer in Cretaceous rock, a human sandal print with trilobite in Cambrian rock, human footprints and a handprint in Cretaceous rock – point to the fact that all the supposed geologic periods actually occurred at the same time in the recent past.11 7. Helium Content in Earth's Atmosphere… Physicist Melvin Cook, Nobel Prize medalist found that helium-4 enters our atmosphere from solar wind and radioactive decay of uranium. At present rates our atmosphere would accumulate current helium-4 amounts in less than 10,000 years.12 8. Expansion of Space Fabric…Astronomical estimates of the distance to various galaxies gives conflicting data. 13The Biblical Record refers to the expansion of space by the Creator14. Astrophysicist Russell Humphries demonstrates that such space expansion would dilate time in distant space.15 This could explain a recent creation with great distances to the stars. 9. Design in Living Systems…A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17 10. Design in the Human Brain…The human brain is the most complicated structure in the known universe.18 It contains over 100 billion cells, each with over 50,000 neuron connections to other brain cells.19 This structure receives over 100 million separate signals from the total human body every second. If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain. 20 In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so.21 1Woodmorappe, John, "The Essential Non-Existence of the Evolutionary Uniformitarian Geologic Column: A Quantitative Assessment," Creation Research Society Quarterly, vol. 18, no.1 (Terre Haute, Indiana, June 1981),pp. 46-71 2 Nilsson, N. Heribert, as quoted in Arthur C. Custance, The Earth Before Man, Part II, Doorway Papers, no. 20 (Ontario, Canada: Doorway Publications), p. 51 3Corner, E.J.H., Contemporary Botanical Thought, ed. A.M. MacLeod and L.S. Cobley (Chicago: Quadrangle Books, 1961), p. 97 4Barnes, Thomas, ICR Technical Monograph #4, Origin and Destiny of the Earth's Magnetic Field (2nd edition, 1983) 5Blick, Edward, A Scientific Analysis of Genesis (Oklahoma City: Hearthstone, 1991) p. 103 6Clark, M.E. and Voss, H.D., "Fluid Mechanic Examination of the Tial Mechanism for Producing Mega-Sedimantary Layering" (Third International Conference on Creation, Pittsburg, July 1994) 7Ager, Derek, The Nature of the Stratigraphical Record (New York: John Wiley and Sons) p. 43 and p. 86 8West, John Anthony, Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt (New York: Julian Press, 1987) pp. 13-14 9 See Morris, Henry, Scientific Creationism (El Cajon, CA: Master Books) 10Gentry, Robert, Creation's Tiny Mystery (Knoxville, Tenn.: Earth Science Assoc.,1988) 11 Baugh, Carl, Why Do Men Believe Evolution AGAINST ALL ODDS? (Oklahoma City: Hearthstone, 1999) 12Cook, Melvin, "Where is The Earth's Radiogenic Helium?" Nature, Vol. 179, p. 213 13Cowan, R., "Further Evidence of a Youthful Universe," Science News, Vol. 148, p. 166 14Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22 15Humphries, Russell, Starlight and Time (Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 1994) 16Denton, Michael, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (Bethesda, Maryland: Adler & Adler, 1986) p. 263 17 Mastropaolo, Joseph, "Evolution Is Biologically Impossible," Impact # 317 (El Cajon, CA: Institute For Creation Research,1999) p. 4 18Restak, Richard, The Brain: The Last Frontier, 1979, p. 390 19The Brain, Our Universe Within, PBS Video 20Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series 21Weiss, Joseph, "Unconscious Mental Functioning," Scientific American, March 1990, p. 103 [ Back ]

[nmh]

"No, not my skepticism – my faith! I am (thank God) a Christian!"

Me too! Especially when scientific evidence supports Creation - just as He said. :) But heck, the name callers wouldn't have a clue on just what He said about it.

[nmh]

What reasoning do you have for a world wide flood NOT having done this. Do explain this and back it up with facts, not speculation.

[nmh]

But ... evidence leans towards Creation. Evidence leans towards the Bible being true. Of late, much prophecy is coming to fruition. You might want to reconsider your doubts and fence sitting.

[nmh]

I plan on going there when it is complete. Maybe you consider going too.

[RaceBannon]

Name one self contradiction.

[nmh]

"Actually, it is more probable that it is stupid to believe in the bible than the opposite. "

Actually the opposite of what you say is true. You ought to read the Bible sometime. Just compare history to it and you will see that it is VERY accurate.

"To believe that humans got the whole god thing right in one book given all the nearly infinite possible explanations and descriptions of god seems highly improbable, numerically more improbable than winning Powerball 100 times in a row. "

Mere fallible humans wrote the Bible under the direction of the Holy Spirit. It is the translations and versions of the origianl Greek and Hebrew where one can have some problems but the original writing is fine. When humans are involved without the Holy Spirit, is when they get themselves into trouble - as yo just demonstrated.

"To believe that god wrote it and is infallible is obviously false because the book is full of self-contradictions. Of course someone who wants to believe so they lack the strength of character to admit that they live without all of the answers is not going to get far along this line of reasoning."

That's upper case "G" for God. God is infallible. The Bible has NO contradictions. Of course you can't name any but repeat what others more ignorant than you have said about it, so I won't ask for an example of a "contradiciton".

This statement:

"Of course someone who wants to believe so they lack the strength of character to admit that they live without all of the answers is not going to get far along this line of reasoning."

Where does one start ... it's pure vanity and hypocritical. Evolutionists don't have all the answers. Not by a long shot yet you don't hurl this insult their way.

I'll state this, I have more answers than evolutionists have and it does take strength of character to not express my true sentiments towards those who won't listen to reason.

[billbears]

Creationist bump!! Excellent

[Da_Shrimp]

The problem with the propsition that all strata were laid down in one flood event is that it can't explain the presence of desert sandstones and evaporites in the sequence.

For example, the Grand Canyon sequence includes the Coconino Sandstone: this was laid down in a desert environment and is capped by the Toroweap Formation, which is a marine deposit. Immediately beneath the Coconino Sandstone are muddy deposits (shales), then further down, the Redwall Limestone, a completely marine deposit. Now, to fit in with the 'Flood' proposition, the water, after laying down marine deposits, would have to retreat for long enough for a desert environment to form, complete with sand dunes, then come back again and cover it all up. All in 40 days.

It doesn't work, sorry.

[Da_Shrimp]

It's a good job US petroleum geologists don't follow the theory that all strata were laid down in one flood event, otherwise the US would be a lot poorer and you wouldn't have anything to put in your nice shiny SUVs.

[memetic]

you like your Yahweh so much, go read the Book of Joshua and then report back on why Yahweh the psychopath is a god worthy of worship. Fortunately I don't believe he exists. if I did, I'd be duty bound to fight against him.

[Da_Shrimp]

A nice little article from the Affiliation of Christian Geologists

Joe Christian Needs to Hear From Us

"It hardly needs saying that there is a lot of misinformation about science going around in Christian circles today. The greatest problem is not in academic circles or with nationally recognized Christian periodicals or publishers. Rather, it is at the grass roots level, which is further removed from learning. The misinformation of science (and the science of misinformation) is most widespread in denominational publications and at the grammar and high school level. Part of the problem is that many Christians at this level do not know where to turn for information. Too often the most accessible sources of information are pseudo-scientists--people without the proper science background but who are eager to pontificate just what many Christians want to hear about creation, the flood, atheism, and even the relationship between science and society's social ills." ~~~ SNIP ~~~

[Da_Shrimp]

"1. To show that there are Evangelical Christians who do such work. Many believers have no idea that there are "Bible-believing" Christians who actually do research in such fields as dating rocks, measuring continental drift, or studying fossils. That Christians do such work is never acknowledged by young-earth creationists (the only ones that are acknowledged are those working at young-earth institutes and a few others who hold the same views). As a result, a popular misconception is that the only people in these disciplines are Bible-hating atheists. "

~~~ SNIP ~~

[Scally Wag]

This guy explains it all
Far better than The Book.

[ShadowAce]

bump

[RaceBannon]

Provide me the verse. Otherwise, all I can tell is you are making stuff up. Point out what verses are contradictory, chapter and verse please, otherwise, I cannot show you where you are wrong.

[mvpel]

Speaking of numerical probabilities, consider this:

The number seven is of significance in the Torah - seven days to create the universe, seven days in the week, seven branches on the menorah, etc. Seven times seven, 49, is also of significance in various places. If you count in the Hebrew text of the Torah from the first "tav," then skipping 49 letters, the 50th letter is a "vav." Repeating this two more times, you come up with "resh," then "hay," which spells "Torah" in Hebrew. Diagrams at this site.

Additionally, if you perform the same procedure, only backwards, in Deuteronomy and Numbers, you find "Torah" spelled out again.

This is only one example of this kind of characteristic of the 304,805 letters of the Torah.