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1 posted on 01/10/2002 8:16:03 AM PST by Jean S
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He's right. Fox lost a boatload of credibility by hiring the chief clinton pyschophant Rivera. Now another clinton apologist/propagandist from CNN? If they're not careful Fox too will be considered "mediawhores" just like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN.
2 posted on 01/10/2002 8:19:48 AM PST by wny
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Good Conservatives are in bed by 10 PM anyway. Who cares. She will be employed if people watch her. That's capitalism. If she is able to present things fairly, people will watch (Conservatives and others). If not, she will be ditched. Ailes wants ratings. If Conservatives don't watch, her ratings will fall. We have plenty of power. I don't know why this group is scared.
3 posted on 01/10/2002 8:23:37 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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I think fox needs some balance. While they have not been as biased as the others, they were rapidly turning into the kneepad reporting network for the neo-cons.
6 posted on 01/10/2002 8:27:12 AM PST by steve50
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Sometimes it is very effective to present your message through a source that is unexpected. What do you know, Geraldo turns out to be a superpatriotic American. The other hires want ratings, and they know those ratings are coming from Fox's core audience. Watch them suddenly get more sensible. What Ailes is doing, all for good business reasons, could well start a stampede away from liberal excesses in the media. CNN is already seeking conservative hires.
9 posted on 01/10/2002 8:31:22 AM PST by thucydides
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They've lost me when Greta comes on. I'll be heading to MSNBC to see Alan Keyes who is going to be her competitor.
10 posted on 01/10/2002 8:31:59 AM PST by tippytoes
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Amen! I will be watching Alan Keyes at MSNBC at the 10 PM slot - if I am still awake at that late (for me) hour! Now, let CNN go hire Anne Coulter for their 10 PM slot (who would not take such a job, probably - but let them try) and I would switch to CNN at that hour.

Only the lamebrained non cable CBS, NBC, ABC idiots have not wised up to the public's anti-anti-Americanism dished out by all of these media toadies -with the exception - up til now of Fox!

Guess what, media darlings, September 11th turned millions of formerly passive, somewhat unpatriotic acting Americans into rabidly pro-American, pro-military, pro-President Bush, pro-war to defend ourselves and kill the enemy Americans! WAke up! Or get left in the dust. Which is what ABCCBSNBC hopefully will have happen.

11 posted on 01/10/2002 8:34:21 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Fox's news spin on ERON & their contributions to the GOP last night was virtually indistinguishable from ABC's or CNN's.

Count me as one of those who is worried.

15 posted on 01/10/2002 8:39:08 AM PST by skeeter
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I'm trying to be "Fair and Balanced" now. I have found other channels after the hiring of Geraldo. There is NO WAY that I will watch Greta "Clutch Cargo" Van Nothing.
16 posted on 01/10/2002 8:40:26 AM PST by Capt_Hank
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Another company ruining a good thing by trying to get bigger too quick. Geraldo - what a joke! Their Orwellian 'this story no longer exists' treatment of the Brit Hume/Carl Cameron story on Israel is another sign of their capitulation.
20 posted on 01/10/2002 8:52:44 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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So why are the folks at Fox now messing with that formula? Recent hires indicate a new direction: glitzy star power over quality. Conservatives are concerned, and Fox had better be careful.

That was exactly the point I made to Roger.
Fox built its name on no-name journalists of integrity and as they succeeded, so did Fox. What did Fox do with that success? Ailes took millions of dollars to buy big name Clinton/OJ apologists! Why didn't he continue the successful business model of simply finding no-name liberal journalists with integrity (like O'Reilly)if he's so concerned about "right wing" condemnation from the liberal media?

22 posted on 01/10/2002 8:55:25 AM PST by Nephi
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Which was rich coming from Greta, who never wants anyone to talk about her fervent belief in Scientology.

Enough said about Greta.

24 posted on 01/10/2002 9:09:34 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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The day it was confirmed that geraldo was hired is the day I e-mailed them and said they lost one viewer. Conservatives have to be careful not to be sucked in when someone says something they (conservatives) "want" to hear, because, invariably, we will be betrayed. The present admin is a good example. Watch what they "do" not what they say.
Re-instating food stamps??? The bologna method, one slice at a time!!!

I get up to date news right from this forum.

25 posted on 01/10/2002 9:13:09 AM PST by poet
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"...nowhere else to go"?

Try:
The library;
To bed
Outdoors
The movies
Just hit the button

26 posted on 01/10/2002 9:15:50 AM PST by Redbob
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The accusation that Fox is right wing is only logical from the ultra-left viewpoint of the "journalists" on the other networks. Fox is at best middle of the road.

Hiring Whorealdo & Van Cistern are not moves that appeal to me.

27 posted on 01/10/2002 9:21:52 AM PST by jimt
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Wrong, wrong, and still wrong. Fox is brilliant. They will gain more audience away from the left by having those Geraldo and Gretta fans tune into Fox. Fox also will not let these left leaning reporters lean to the left and will keep them honest and on center. This eliminates them from the airwaves of the left and moderates them. This also makes it more difficult for the left and CNN types from claiming Fox is to far to the right. At the same time Fox will keep its base because conservatives are not going to watch ABCNNBCBS for any reason. Fox maintains its conservative base, weakens the competition, brings in a few more left leaning viewers to watch Fox that will change their mind when they can hear the truth from all of Fox and create more centrist and more conservative viewers. This is brilliant and just what Fox needs to do to compete and gain more market share. While MSNBC leans left their sister cable CNBC leans a little right now and than and even more with Alan Keys soon to start his show. Even CNN has observed they played the Clinton left wing stand to long and have lost to many sponsers and viewers since 9/11 and are starting to tone their leftist views down a tiny amount. What we need now is a blatant ultra right leaning network to start up. This would take some viewers away from Fox but would help the GOP and America and enhance Fox and further errode the credibility of the left and RAT DMC mouth pieces. We need a Texas or Southern based news network away from the beltway and New York and California. Is there anyone up to the task to be the new Right wing version of Ted Turner? Rush rules the radio waves and we need the same new cable type network now while conservatives are on a roll. So what if the left claims propaganda while they practice it and lieing to the American public daily. We need another network to tell ABCNNBCBS to just shut the #@$8 up!
29 posted on 01/10/2002 9:39:38 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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Secure your base, then move toward the middle adopting as much of your opponent's base as you to win. Have'nt we heard of this strategy before?
30 posted on 01/10/2002 9:43:47 AM PST by noah
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Yes, I'm worried.

FOX should be, too! They had the bull by the horns and now they have grabbed it by the tail by hiring unabashed Liberals for major slots.

It was bad enough having a substantial number of very liberal commentators and analysts, plus "equal balance" from people the likes of Alan Colmes. Why watch a featured news show with a Liberal flake like Greta when you can turn to Keyes or just read a book?

I will not watch Liberals hog the limelight again and control the discussions - FOX or no FOX. I will turn it off, go to another channel or do something else.

FOX better wise up or it will start into a free fall like CNN and just be another member of the same old, tired Liberal crowd.

33 posted on 01/10/2002 9:54:39 AM PST by Gritty
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Fox has demonstrated that a large fraction of the news-junkie audience will be attracted to "fair and balanced" and to shows which give voice to conservative views. With Alan Keyes' show on MSNBC, Lawrence Kudlow on CNBC, and rumors about CNN hiring some conservatives, it appears the network news managers have figured this out. My personal opinion is that O'Reilly and H&C have become stale with too much confrontation, not enough issue/ideology exploration. After 911, Jerry Rivers had the best discussion show on, i.e. his guests were the most knowledgeable and he allowed a long-form discussion of the issues. MSNBC probably has the best Pentagon coverage. My guess is Greta the witch will fail on Fox. Liberals disgust with conservative ideas is so visceral, they won't be able to bring themselves to tune into FNC.
36 posted on 01/10/2002 10:06:43 AM PST by Faraday
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Fox is going to have to be careful. The biggest mistake it could make is to take its conservative audience for granted.

Furrowed brow-Bump.

41 posted on 01/10/2002 10:28:07 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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Jeez, talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

If you want a professional, balanced news presentation with a solid right-winger you'll watch Brit Hume or Snow.

If you like populist ranting, you'll watch O'Reilly.

A lot of people like Hannity (I don't know why) -- so watch him!

Turn the damned thing off the rest of the time. Too many people here have "boycott syndrome".

42 posted on 01/10/2002 10:32:49 AM PST by CraigH
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