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White House Shifts on Welfare Law; Food Stamps for Legal Immigrants
New York Times ^

Posted on 01/09/2002 5:00:20 PM PST by RCW2001



January 9, 2002

White House Shifts on Welfare Law; Food Stamps for Legal Immigrants

By ROBERT PEAR

WASHINGTON, Jan. 9 — The Bush administration proposed today to restore food stamps to legal immigrants, whose eligibility for benefits was severely restricted by the 1996 welfare law.

The White House said that in the budget President Bush will send to Congress in early February, at least 363,000 people would qualify for food stamps under a proposal that would cost the federal government $2.1 billion over 10 years.

The proposal, or something like it, has an excellent chance of becoming law. The Senate is considering such changes as part of a far-reaching bill to reauthorize farm and nutrition programs.

The welfare bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton in 1996 made immigrants ineligible for food stamps and many other forms of assistance financed with federal money. Supporters of the ban, most of them Republicans, argued that federal benefits drew immigrants to the United States and then discouraged their work effort after they got here.

But today, with the country in a recession that is hurting immigrants, and fighting a war on terrorism that has targeted some immigrants, Mr. Bush is looking for ways to show his commitment to them as well as to addressing domestic problems — a transition his father failed to make effectively a decade ago after the Persian Gulf war. Moreover, many of those who would benefit from the food stamps are Hispanic Americans, whom the White House is ardently courting.

As Mr. Clinton did as well, President Bush is selectively disclosing parts of his budget in advance — specifically, those proposals likely to win political support for the president.

Antihunger groups and Hispanic groups were enthusiastic about Mr. Bush's proposal, without suggesting any ulterior motive.

"This is an enormous step forward, for which the president should be congratulated," said Cecilia Munoz, vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Latino civil rights group. "Mr. Bush did not speak out on this in the presidential campaign, and he had not done so since he assumed office."

As governor of Texas and as president, Mr. Bush has taken pride in his good relations with Hispanic Americans, although the Republican Party is split on how aggressively to go after Hispanic voters.

Some Republicans have alienated Hispanic voters with proposals for a restrictionist immigration policy. But Karl Rove, the president's senior political adviser, said earlier this year that capturing a bigger share of Hispanic voters was "our mission and our goal" and would require assiduous work by "all of us in every way."

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, the federal government has detained more than 1,100 noncitizens for questioning and has stepped up enforcement of the immigration laws. Mr. Bush has insisted that he is waging war on terrorists, not immigrants, and his food stamp proposal can be cited to support that claim.

James D. Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, an antihunger group, said: "It's really positive that the administration wants to extend food stamp benefits to this group of legal immigrants. We are delighted the administration is supporting this."

The economy is much worse now than in 1996, when Mr. Clinton signed the welfare bill. "Immigrants have been hit hard by the economic downturn," Ms. Munoz said, "and there's no safety net for those who arrived after 1996."

Welfare and food stamp rolls have plummeted since 1996, and members of Congress express much less concern now about being overwhelmed with the programs' cost, even though budget surpluses have evaporated and Mr. Bush has emphasized holding down costs. Also, advocates for immigrants have made some progress on Capitol Hill by appealing to the American sense of justice.

"This will restore justice to people who work hard, pay taxes and play an incredibly important role in our economy," Ms. Munoz said. "It is unreasonable for somebody who works hard and is laid off to have no access to food for his family."



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To: RCW2001
"Immigrants have been hit hard by the economic downturn," Ms. Munoz said, "and there's no safety net for those who arrived after 1996."

All those people who think immigrants are going to save the Social Security program need to read this, that what really will happen is the taxpayers will be supporting them instead. There should be no welfare or food stamps, the minute you do that they tell all their relatives and friends back home and then they come looking for the same.

101 posted on 01/09/2002 8:12:34 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Sabertooth
" Not that I'm against immigration, but why should we keep policies that make us needy for it?"

I should have put my sarcasm tag in.

Anyway - we just started shipping welfare to Cuba as we speak. So we support them here and it seems like we are adding more places to where we send it.

Hope everyone is working harder. The wives have to work to help support the family. Maybe we should put the kids to work now.

102 posted on 01/09/2002 8:13:37 PM PST by LADY J
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To: RCW2001
la raza
hates whitey!
103 posted on 01/09/2002 8:14:01 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: anniegetyourgun
Opting out (that is, staying home or voting for a single-digit type) is not the answer.

Hey if GW see it in his political interests to further dilute the ethnic European majority in America by abrogating his responsibilities to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws then he can kiss off my vote and many other conservatives too. He better figure out quick which side he wants to be on.

104 posted on 01/09/2002 8:15:52 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
 He better figure out quick which side he wants to be on.

He already figured it out.  He just didn't count on 9/11 slowing him down on this issue.

WarHawk42

105 posted on 01/09/2002 8:27:58 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Home looks like a nice place to stay and watch the next presidential election results....at least I'll know what I'm getting."

78 posted on 1/9/02 8:46 PM Pacific by Regulator

"Yep - Hillary!"

79 posted on 1/9/02 8:47 PM Pacific by anniegetyourgun

annie...I'm practically a Bush cheerleader, but at some point, if the current "Republican" trend continues,
Hillary! won't seem quite so scary.
Here's a thought...not over Bush's "dead body" will congress raise our taxes....so how does he plan to pay for this?
Perhaps the White House leaked that they'd LIKE to do this, knowing it'll never happen?
106 posted on 01/09/2002 8:28:25 PM PST by MamaLucci
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To: MamaLucci
I'll take a cynical view as well. A proposal is one thing. Actually having it approved by the senate is something entirely different. Seems more like a 'we want to help everyone' ploy. I'm also a Bush cheerleader, but will be very concerned if this proposal is passed.
107 posted on 01/09/2002 8:31:12 PM PST by rintense
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To: MamaLucci
The Senate is considering such changes as part of a far-reaching bill to reauthorize farm and nutrition programs.

Or, the White House counted the votes, and isn't about to veto this bill in an election year.
108 posted on 01/09/2002 8:35:20 PM PST by MamaLucci
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To: rintense
Seems more like a 'we want to help everyone' ploy.

It's the only thing (other than betraying his base) that I can think of.

...but will be very concerned if this proposal is passed.

As will I.
109 posted on 01/09/2002 8:45:01 PM PST by MamaLucci
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To: WarHawk42
He already figured it out. He just didn't count on 9/11 slowing him down on this issue.

That seems to be the emerging picture. Remember a month before 9/11 when GW was talking about a full amnesty for illegal aliens? LOL. Even Regan fell into that trap and it resulted in even MORE illegal immigration. The Mexicans understand this game well. They know our politicos have no backbone because they don't want to be called racists and of course like that gravy train of corporate money in their coffers. So what do our politicians do? They sell us out and the media censors the news in the hopes that the average American Rube doesn't figure it out. What a racket.

110 posted on 01/09/2002 8:46:45 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Remember a month before 9/11 when GW was talking about a full amnesty for illegal aliens?

I remember it very well.  Don't be surprised when he stars pushing it hard again.  As soon as the dust settles he will be at full song again.

Have you seen a serious effort to secure our borders?  How about a serious effort to round up illegal aliens from all country's and deporting them?  No?  They don't seem to be able to even round up the ones from terrorist country's.  Don't look for any serious efforts in any of this, not unless we have more terrorist attacks, which we may.

WarHawk42

111 posted on 01/09/2002 8:55:50 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: ZDaphne
My confidence has eroded considerably about Bush's domestic policy with Hispanics since he took office.

It strikes me that President Bush's policy with regard to Hispanics has not been that different from his policy when he was governor of Texas. He came out against many of the ballot measures that Pete Wilson pushed in California. For that matter, Bush said, "I'm a uniter, not a divider" and bragged of being able to make deals with Democrats.

It doesn't seem to me that Bush isn't being much different of a President than he said he was going to be. Maybe someone from Texas say how accurate this assessment is.

112 posted on 01/09/2002 9:07:57 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: WarHawk42
LOL You keep throwing this stuff out and then getting defensive about it.

Pure psychobabble. The problem is that you can't make a simple distinction between a factual claim and an endorsement.

113 posted on 01/09/2002 9:10:24 PM PST by codeword
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To: codeword
Pure psychobabble. The problem is that you can't make a simple distinction between a factual claim and an endorsement.

I've been accused of worse.:)  Of course it could all be cleared up if you made your position clear.

WarHawk42

114 posted on 01/09/2002 9:16:21 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: Regulator
When it comes to immigrants and freebies for them, Bush is no better than Clinton and his ilk.
115 posted on 01/09/2002 9:25:56 PM PST by dougherty
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To: WarHawk42
Have you seen a serious effort to secure our borders? How about a serious effort to round up illegal aliens from all country's and deporting them? No? They don't seem to be able to even round up the ones from terrorist country's. Don't look for any serious efforts in any of this, not unless we have more terrorist attacks, which we may.

That's pretty much the way I see it. And if we do have more terrorist attacks, this time around GW will rightfully get the blame for not applying the laws he was sworn to uphold. Even the duplicitous democrats will flame him if they see votes by doing so.

116 posted on 01/09/2002 9:26:07 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Regulator
Is it just me or are other people mad that American guys are 13,000 miles away getting shot up while the non-Americans live the good life here at home? Is that what they are over there risking their butts for?

Excellent point Regulator. It would seem so. I'm making immigration my number one issue in future elections. If I can't tell the difference between either candidate I won't vote.

117 posted on 01/09/2002 9:30:27 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
And if we do have more terrorist attacks, this time around GW will rightfully get the blame for not applying the laws he was sworn to uphold.

If it happens again he should get the blame.  Only a fool thought it couldn't happen the first time considering the governments lax immigration control.  It was only a matter of time and 9/11 was the time.

The first priority should have been the safety of this country from within.  Afghanistan wasn't going anywhere.  The borders and weeding out the bad seeds already here should have been the most important item on the agenda.  Unfortunately it still isn't.

WarHawk42

118 posted on 01/09/2002 9:34:03 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: WRhine
If GW doesn't shut down the ongoing invasion from Mexico he won't get my vote next time around.

Ditto.

119 posted on 01/09/2002 9:42:11 PM PST by dougherty
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To: WarHawk42
We don't call them The Stupid Party for nothing.
120 posted on 01/09/2002 9:43:38 PM PST by Pelham
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