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Apologies if this has been posted in the past...Very interesting read...
1 posted on 01/09/2002 6:03:59 AM PST by College Repub
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bttt
2 posted on 01/09/2002 6:11:37 AM PST by College Repub
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All this discussion about the age and the beginning of the universe is unnecessary. Why don't we just ask Helen Thomas. Surely she remembers where she was when it happened.
3 posted on 01/09/2002 6:11:48 AM PST by Freemyland
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Anybody who wants a biblical point of view (and their mind expanded greatly) MUST read The Creator and the Cosmos by Dr. Hugh Ross. It is staggering how precisely designed the universe is. It is truly beyond man's ability to completely grasp what a precision wonder it is. The discoveries that have been made in just the past few years in astronomy and physics is incredible.

If this book was required reading in high school, America would be revolutionized overnight! The evidence is so overwhelming it is laughable for anybody who would deny a mind of supernatural ability and intelligence behind the universe's design and existence.

4 posted on 01/09/2002 6:14:25 AM PST by Russell Scott
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We have a clock that begins with Adam, and the six days are separate from this clock. The Bible has two clocks.

That's a compromise. I wish we could stop with the Biblical apologetics and realize that science has already determined the age of the earth and it is not in conflict the with God ruling the universe.

5 posted on 01/09/2002 6:19:38 AM PST by JediGirl
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bump for later reading
7 posted on 01/09/2002 6:22:50 AM PST by Snuffington
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The calculations come out to be as follows:

The first of the Biblical days lasted 24 hours, viewed from the "beginning of time perspective." But the duration from our perspective was 8 billion years.
The second day, from the Bible's perspective lasted 24 hours. From our perspective it lasted half of the previous day, 4 billion years.
The third day also lasted half of the previous day, 2 billion years.
The fourth day - one billion years.
The fifth day - one-half billion years.
The sixth day - one-quarter billion years.

Is this all really necessary? Point is, the Bible is a great text as to how one should live, but it's not scientific. That's a basic summation. Stop trying to conform the Bible to science, and realize that when the Bible was written, that man didn't know what they know now. The Bible is a moral text. Not a scientific one.

8 posted on 01/09/2002 6:25:00 AM PST by JediGirl
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Interesting... There is a simpler explanation. God is an eternal being. What is a day in His perspective is likely quite different than a day in our perspective.

Indeed, I sometimes wonder, if this is still the sixth day.

9 posted on 01/09/2002 6:26:03 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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Short answer: Older than dirt.
12 posted on 01/09/2002 6:38:02 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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Thanks for the post. I'll get the book.

One little quibble. Until the Hubble space telescope showed the universe was much bigger than previously thought (the observable radius was 100 times bigger than previously thought), the outer edge of the universe was not thought to be moving fast enough to give the time ratio cited as possible in the article (i.e., 6 days in one location was equal to 15 billion years at another). This big a relative time difference was theoretically possible, but no known locations had enough of a difference in their relative velocities for it to actually be true.

With what we can now observe (assuming our observations actually show the outer edge of an expanding universe), the universe is so big, and moving so fast on the outer edge, that the time difference between the fastest and slowest parts is sufficient for the needed time difference. In other words, 15 billion years at the slowest moving part of the universe is equal to a little less than 7 days at the fastest moving part. If so, that means we are in the 7th day.

13 posted on 01/09/2002 7:23:57 AM PST by EternalHope
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The universe is only 49 years old. I have absolutely no proof that it existed before I was born.
17 posted on 01/10/2002 10:56:08 AM PST by TC Rider
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