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To: ASTM366, t-shirt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you armchair high judges always know what is best AFTER the fact.

I too, think they should not have waited so long to go in, but to blame the deaths on the police is ludicrous and shows a complete lack of understanding of the concept of RELEVANCE. 2 kids are at fault, the rest were reacting in the heat of battle.

If those officers had rushed in, instigating a heavy gun battle with collateral injuries(not saying that would have been the result, but it was a significant risk), you would probably be the first and the loudest shouting how "as long as you live, you will never forget the images of those stormtroopers hastily charging the building, killing children, a graphic picture of excessive force and poor judgement."

45 posted on 01/05/2002 3:14:12 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you armchair high judges always know what is best AFTER the fact.

You are correct. The best course of action is to do nothing. When students are running out STOP THEM!!!! SECURE THE PERIMETER!!!!! Let the killers murder until they get tired of it and then say it could have been worse. A BODY ARMORED RAMBO WANNABEE SWAT cop could have been hurt.

I will say it again. A two man cruiser in the 1960's would have gone in and stopped this. Without body armor and only armed with one shotgun and two model 10 Smiths.

47 posted on 01/05/2002 3:29:23 PM PST by Nov3
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Harris and Klebold were responsible for the attack and murders, but the FACT remains that the law enforcement personnel who responded to the incident at Columbine High School did not put themselves at risk to stop their attack.

COWARDS, COWARDS, COWARDS, COWARDS, COWARDS!!!

Not ONE officer who showed up on the scene put themselves "in harms way" to save those children.

They even let a teacher bleed to death!

You can't defend this lack of action. A simple case of paralysis and cowardice.

Your comments would lead one to believe that you would probably advocate giving the "officers" a commendation.

50 posted on 01/05/2002 5:14:17 PM PST by ASTM366
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you armchair high judges always know what is best AFTER the fact.

I too, think they should not have waited so long to go in, but to blame the deaths on the police is ludicrous and shows a complete lack of understanding of the concept of RELEVANCE. 2 kids are at fault, the rest were reacting in the heat of battle.

If those officers had rushed in, instigating a heavy gun battle with collateral injuries(not saying that would have been the result, but it was a significant risk), you would probably be the first and the loudest shouting how "as long as you live, you will never forget the images of those stormtroopers hastily charging the building, killing children, a graphic picture of excessive force and poor judgement."

Do you remember the shootout the LA Cops had with the body-armored bank-robbers?

The cops were outgunned, because 9mm and shotguns weren't stopping the perps, because their BODY ARMOR PROTECTED THEM!

Why do we have SWAT teams dressed like Ninjas, wearing body armor if they are AFRAID OF GETTING THE ARMOR SCRATCHED!

There was NOTHING Klebold or Harris HAD that would have penetrated the armor, but the SWAT Cops COWERED OUTSIDE!

Oh, let's not forget the Cop who is being stonewalled for...he fired off 51 FRICKIN' rounds from a full auto HK-94...that's 1 1/2 CLIPS...ON FULL AUTO!

Now an innocent kid is dead, and you want to join in the LEO Hallelujiah Chorus?

Same request to you as I made to Dane (SO MANY TIMES!!!), if you are an LEO, name and badge #, and where you work...I need to avoid you folks...you forget just WHO THE BAD GUYS ARE!

53 posted on 01/05/2002 5:45:27 PM PST by Itzlzha
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I too, think they should not have waited so long to go in, but to blame the deaths on the police is ludicrous and shows a complete lack of understanding of the concept of RELEVANCE. 2 kids are at fault, the rest were reacting in the heat of battle.

If any innocent students were shot by LEO's it is totally relevant. Heat of battle or not, LEO's should be accountable for everyone & everything they shoot. That's what the mental evaluations and training are partly about. I don't want a world where LEO's can shoot innocents and we all say, 'Oh well, it was in the middle of a shoot out so it's excuseable.' LEO work is tough but lowering our expectations is not the right answer.

59 posted on 01/05/2002 7:04:31 PM PST by Lester Moore
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