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To: RnMomof7
You have NO scripture to allow for the worship of Mary,no scripture to attest to the assumption..it is all made out of whole cloth so you do dodge and weave ..but you avoidance fools no one but yourself

I am sometimes tempted to believe that you are actually an anti-Protestant Catholic who poses as an anti-Catholic to make Protestants look silly. But I usually resist the temptation.

Aside the fact that Catholics do not worship Mary, I reject the notion that all doctrine must be found explicity found in Scripture. And you have produced not a single Scriptural reference supporting your position that all doctrine must be found explicitly in Scripture. Oh yeah, again, St. Paul teaches the antithesis of your position in 2 Thessalonians. But you already knew that.

807 posted on 01/11/2002 12:49:10 PM PST by Squire
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To: Squire
I am sometimes tempted to believe that you are actually an anti-Protestant Catholic who poses as an anti-Catholic to make Protestants look silly. But I usually resist the temptation.

I've been reading these (LONG close to 800 now?) posts and I bet fully 25% of the text is devoted to personal remarks and attacks.... THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT.

If you want to make personal insults and such this just isn't the place, stick to the issues man, and please don't go insulting women, particularly one as sincere and full of a passion for God as RNMomof7.

TO EVERYONE: People please, refrain from personal remarks, taunts and insults, as no matter how intelligent you think you or your points are, you defecate on them when you show your attitude not of Love, which is by definition, thereby not of Christ.

809 posted on 01/11/2002 1:14:19 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Squire;OrthodoxPresbyterian
Not only is your doctrine on Mary and the Saints not in scripture is is anti scripture..

Mat.12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

You can call it mediation and veneration ,but if you rely on it for your salvation (as you do in your quote)....pray to it ,make icons of it kneel before it, put flowers and candles before it...publish thanksgiving to it in the paper it is a god..

810 posted on 01/11/2002 1:34:00 PM PST by RnMomof7
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