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Christianity Under Siege: The Stones Cry Out (Democrats continue to slam the door on Christians)
Newsmax.com ^ | 1/3/02 | Diane Alden

Posted on 01/04/2002 5:18:18 AM PST by truthandlife

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The point is that Catholics are violating their own beliefs by voting in large numbers for the continuation of liberalism and moral relativism. Ministers shouldn't tell anyone whom to vote for. But they should make the moral and spiritual lessons of Scripture so clear that the choice is obvious.

We shouldn't pick on Catholics too much. There are plenty of Protestants with the same problem.

21 posted on 01/04/2002 7:02:20 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: truthandlife
Only evangelism solves this.
22 posted on 01/04/2002 7:32:16 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Zack Nguyen
How about this one for Jewish registered voters in 1996: 21.4% Republican, 46.4% Democrat and 32.1% Independent. And you know that the independent Jewish vote turns out HUGE for the republicans (ha ha ha). What's their deal?
23 posted on 01/04/2002 7:47:48 AM PST by Christian B
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No, but again, it falls back, like some other folks have said, to heritage.

I know some RC's (especially of Irish and Italian descent) who just cannot get past the image of the Republicans as anti-immigrant WASP's.

For people like that, no amount of hand shaking or philosophical agreement will make GW an acceptable candidate.

BTW, once again, this is reciprocal on the protestant/evangelical side. My wife's family is Southern Baptist, and you could not have found a better group of Clinton apologists and Gore supporters. They were both Southern Baptists, baby, and that's all there was to it!

24 posted on 01/04/2002 8:17:14 AM PST by Mr. Thorne
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I would expect a sincere policital evaluation of the candidates by church leadership around election-time.

I suspect that your church might be more willing to do this if by doing so it wasn't putting its IRS tax-exempt status on the line. We can't have churches getting involved in matters of politics, you know. They might actually have an effect on the outcome, and we just can't have that.

25 posted on 01/04/2002 8:28:37 AM PST by CubicleGuy
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The answer to your questions about the voting habits of catholics, are complex. I was raised catholic, I was always told from birth that I was Irish-American, catholic and a democrat. The high influx of minority catholics, mainly from south and latin america may be a reason for the catholic democratic vote as well. Catholics also seem to hold on to their ethnic identity (bigotry??) a little more, for example when I was a kid we switched parishes because the priest was from Sri Lanka, to a church where the priests and deacons were Irish and Italian.

Many of the folks in my parents generation still remember stories passed down to them by their parents and grandparents of the "No Irish need apply" signs that still graced many storefronts in cities well into the 1930's. The only way they got jobs then was to get off the boat, go to the nearest church and the Priest or a member of the parish would take them to the local Democratic party headquarters, and they would be given a low wage job through them. Therefore, they owed their very livelyhood to the Democratic party and were loyal as hell. Also remember to that there are two Democratic parties, the one that exists and the one older catholics thinks still exists. The party of FDR, Truman and JFK. That is my grandfathers democratic party, not the party of Hillary and Bill.

My grandfather used to tell me when I was younger, that the Republicans were the party of management and the Democrats the party of the working man. He could also never forgive the Republicans for the scare tactics used during the 1960 campaign, where GOP operatives went around telling all who would listen if JFK won the election the Pope would rule America. Many catholics are also union members, the problem with the GOP is still that alot of the GOP is anti-union, which I could never fathom because alot of union men and women are social conservatives. In closing, I hope i've shed a little light on it for you.

26 posted on 01/04/2002 8:47:49 AM PST by ProudGenXLibertarian
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The new religion pays lip service to "tolerance" but fails to offer tolerance to Christians

Of course--it's the closest thing the disciples of Plurality can come to logic. "Nobody is right, and everybody is right"--except those who say that there way is the only way, The right way.

27 posted on 01/04/2002 9:03:09 AM PST by Pistias
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"The new religion pays lip service to "tolerance" but fails to offer tolerance to Christians"

Of course--it's the closest thing the disciples of Plurality can come to logic. "Nobody is right, and everybody is right"--except those who say that there way is the only way, The right way.

Poor devils. I wonder what they would think of Jesus Christ. He's the one who said, " I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me." He clearly did not say Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic, or any other flavor of christianity. He does point out that HE is THE ONLY way. Certainly this has to offend many independent christians and other humans. God forbid that any one of them would want to practice the truth. It's just not socially acceptable.

28 posted on 01/04/2002 11:04:59 AM PST by Hoosier
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The new religion pays lip service to "tolerance" but fails to offer tolerance to Christians.

Worth a read: Rousseau's Civil Religion

29 posted on 01/04/2002 12:02:34 PM PST by Dumb_Ox
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To: truthandlife
Another great article from Diane Alden.

Terry McAuliffe and the left's comparing the Christian (God is love- read a Bible, DNC) right, or simply Christianity with the Taliban is a far greater show of ignorance than anything Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson said following 9-11.

When Hillary can stand in the pulpit of a NY Baptist church during election year and sing "Get Thee Behind Me Lazio (Satan)," or Jesse J., L. Farrakhan, Gore, or Sen. Edwards can condemn their fellow Americans from within American churches, scaring up votes and breaking more than one of the 10 Commandments in a most un-Christian way...we can say with confidence that our fellow Americans on the left are heading in the wrong direction, but we are not going to join them on that path, no way.

30 posted on 01/04/2002 3:01:45 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Christianity Under Siege, Part II: Those Who Are Voiceless
31 posted on 01/17/2002 11:43:40 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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