PAGE SIX/Lock & loaded (Keyes MSNBC Show?)

New York Post ^ | 1/04/02 | RICHARD JOHNSON with PAULA FROELICH and CHRIS WILSON

[kattracks]

THE folks at Msnbc are talking to former Republican presidential candidate and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Alan Keyes about hosting a 10 p.m. show up against Fox News' new hire, Greta Van Susteren. Meanwhile, Van Susteren, a lawyer before her O.J. Simpson commentary turned her into a CNN star, reportedly has penned an eight-page memo detailing CNN's demerits. She plans to keep the document secret as long as CNN doesn't try to paint her as an ungrateful traitor.

[exodus]

You left out what you said to carenot.

[habs4ever]

Nothing Keyes says or does matters, as he's unelectable.He's a boutique item, with a short shelf life,and as such,will be missed by only a fringe.

[carenot]

And it's also what they refuse to discuss on these threads.

I will discuss anything with anyone at any time I am on line.

As I told Howlin, I am watching one of the debates right now.

I thought I remembered it. I sorta' did. Keyes is great.

Of corse he can't win, so everybody voted for Bush to keep Gore from being President.

It seems to be the reason most people voted for GWB.

[Sunsong]

[[[Based upon this statement of Dr. Keyes thinking: '-- nobody else has anything worthwhile to say and GW is worse than Hitler".' I would put you as lessor than, shall we say, Hitler.]]]

Your evaluation of me is that I am lessor than Hitler because I think Keyes comes across like he thinks no one else has anything worthwhile to say and he thinks that GW is worse than Hitler?

[Howlin]

If Bush had not shown up, it would have been Keyes in person and McCain on the TV.

Gosh, maybe Keyes WOULD have won the presidency!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I'll take dumb over intelligent any day of the week.

Never has any Freeper so proved his devotion to this idea over and over for so long a period.

[Howlin]

This charge has been denied, and has not been documented

I believe there is evidence to the contrary on that.

[ElConservadorLoco]

Dang! I would have loved to see Fox grab Keyes. Whatever channel he is on I will watch and that will blow my boycott of PMSnbc

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

You are rapidly revealing your true character. People can judge for themselves

How true !!!! Perhaps the comment that follows your post will send this guy to the locker room.

It becomes more and more interesting to observe the behavior of the diehard Keyes lovers. It is not realistic to separate the fans from the idol so one needs to associate them.

That doesn't speak well for Keyes but I see very little attempt by his paid employees (who frequent these threads) to discourage any of them. It says volumes.

[MitchellC]

Millions of other people disagree with you.

Gee, wonderful point of argument.

[Miss Marple]

I voted for George W. Bush because he was pretty much where I was on most, but not all of the issues, and because I trusted him, and because I saw a good and decent man. He has kept his campaign promises (even that education bill which I didn't agree with) and he has restored honor and decency to the Presidency.

I bleieved him to be a good leader, and have been pleased to see he is even better than I thought he would be. I think he will be a great president, perhaps eclipsing all but a few. I did NOT vote for him because he wasn't Gore. That was just a bonus.

[Sunsong]

Thanks for the invitaion to discuss things :)

My view is that Keyes and Keyes supporters think they are superior to everyone else and yet they won't admit that nor discuss it.

I would prefer talking to someone who at least admits that they think they are superior than someone who says otherwise but continuously puts everyone that disagrees with them down

[Howlin]

Of corse he can't win, so everybody voted for Bush to keep Gore from being President.

I'd be REAL interested in hearing your explanation of why he can't win.

Is it a conspiracy?

Is it because he's black?

[Howlin]

It is a good point. When 280,000,000 people think you're wrong, maybe you are.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I see. Eyewitnesses, newspaper accounts, and radio reports are all lies.

There is a newspaper account on this forum right at this time that Israel and Saudi Arabia, among others, are about to jointly attack Iraq. Do you believe that this newspaper report is the truth? An eyewitness claimed that George W. Bush took cocaine. Do you thing he was telling the truth? There was a radio report that the Earth had been invaded by Mars. Do you think that is true? For the record I think that all of these reports were untrue, and the same might be true of the reports you refer to. I will give some credence to a tape recording, but the only real proof that I would accept would be if you could show me where Dr. Keyes said this openly, in a press release, or on his website, or in an official transcript of his remarks.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Is it a conspiracy?

Is it because he's black?

Actually I think it was cancelling his appearance on SNL that cost him the election........lol

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Keyes comes across like he thinks no one else has anything worthwhile to say and he thinks that GW is worse than Hitler?He does not 'come across' that way to those who are capable of rational thought.

[MitchellC]

When 280,000,000 people think you're wrong, maybe you are.

Or, gee, maybe they aren't? It's still pitiful to think that a point is made because of the number of people willing to adhere to it.

For example, look at how many people in this country (the majority?) are willing to wipe their butts with the Constitution for free hand-outs.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I believe there is evidence to the contrary on that.

Then cite it. I am afraid that based on your attitude on this thread, and similar ones, I would not accept your word that the sun rises in the east.

[Miss Marple]

In all evidentiary matters, one must look at who is giving the testimony.

The examples you give are from extreme papers and partisans. That is not a good example.

Two separate newspaper articles from Oklahoma papers, written independently and emphasizing different parts of the same speech have a reasonable degree of reliability. People who reported on these statements BEFORE the newspaper articles were published must also be assumed to be fairly truthful.

Your standard of reliability would allow no criticism of President Bush unless you yourself actually heard him say something or he published it on the White House web site. That is an unrealistic standard.