[Thorin]

The number of children Pat and Shelley have is completley irrelevant to Buchanan's argument. In fact, it bespeaks bad manners even mentioning it. Of course, if either Pat or Shelley are infertile, there's not much they can do about not having childen.

[steve-b]

The number of children Pat and Shelley have is completley irrelevant to Buchanan's argument.

Nonsense. By this standard, John Paul II and Bill Clinton would both deserve the exact same respectful hearing if they argued in favor of honesty and chastity.