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It's evening in America, Buchanan says, and immigrants are to blame (Buchanan interview)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram | 1/03/2002 | Jeff Guinn (Books Editor)

Posted on 01/03/2002 7:56:52 AM PST by sinkspur

Pat Buchanan is aware that potential readers of his new book already either adore him or disdain everything he writes "because I am the one writing it."

So in The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization (Thomas Dunne Books/St. Martin's Press, $25.95), the ex-presidential candidate and conservative pundit is trying to back up his apocalyptic projections with facts and figures provided by such disparate sources as "Russian leader Mr. Putin, a British archbishop and the United Nations. By drawing on what anyone would have to consider neutral sources, this makes my message far more powerful."

The gist of The Death of the West's messages:

Low birthrates are decimating the population of almost every European country - by 2050, only one-tenth of the world's population (America included) will be of European descent.

The unchecked influx of immigrants into America, legal and otherwise, is gradually handing the nation over to insurgents who come to force their foreign values on us rather than accepting ours.

Political correctness on the part of unwitting Americans plays into the hands of those who intend to obliterate our culture.

The events of Sept. 11 may provide enough of a wake-up call, Buchanan says, to make "the death of the West" only a threat rather than a certainty.

"The book is about a point I've been making for a long time, that the West is dying," Buchanan says during a lengthy phone conversation. "If we don't change how we do things, we'll be gone by the middle of this century, if not before. The horror of Sept. 11, I think, awoke a lot of Americans to new realities. It's a healthy thing to remember there are people out there who want to destroy us."

In Buchanan's opinion, it took terrorist attacks on New York City and the Washington, D.C., area to drive that message home to an American public more intent on hedonism than heroism.

"The '90s were a time of prosperity I've likened to the 1920s," Buchanan says. "The '20s were about money, drinking, jazz. The '90s were money, drugs, rock. The '20s ended with the stock market crash, the Depression, then on to Hitler, Tojo, Stalin. The 1990s ended on Sept. 11. We're at the kind of place Walter Lippmann called 'a plastic moment,' a time when people can change their destiny. I hope this book helps that. I'm not so much predicting these awful things will happen as saying, 'This is what the end is if the numbers remain the same.' "

Not that he holds much hope: "To many American young people, people like me belong to a bad old era. They've been taught that in school, indoctrinated in it. They want to say goodbye to the way our generation did things. This is why I don't think much will be done about the problems we face."

Buchanan acknowledges he's saying things that most Americans would prefer not to hear and that many condemn as racist and inflammatory.

"My response is that it's too late in the day for political correctness," he says. "After Sept. 11, with those acts perpetrated by people we literally welcomed into this country, Americans ought to be aware there is such a thing as too much diversity, too much welcoming. Look: I've said that if you bring 100 Zulu tribesmen into Virginia and 1 million British, the British would be assimilated more comfortably. I base that on those British coming into an American culture based on English law and tradition. And when I said that, something that seems like a simple statement, I've been accused of racism."

Now, Buchanan says, "I could substitute Iranians or Saudis for the Zulu, and people might understand." And, he adds, originally citing the Zulus was in no way racist "because I'm friends with the Zulu ruler. It's just a matter of acknowledging the differences in culture."

Potential immigrants should be judged by one measure, Buchanan adds: "Are they likely to carry on our culture, which makes America a unique country and civilization? Or are they not?"

Population explosions in Islamic, African and Latin American nations are coinciding with a decline in the U.S. birthrate, Buchanan notes, citing U.N. studies. To bolster "American cultural" numbers, Buchanan concludes in The Death of the West, American women should be encouraged via tax breaks to increase the country's population: "A free society cannot force women to have children, but a healthy society can reward those who preserve it by doing so."

Though he doesn't broach the subject in The Death of the West, in conversation Buchanan is willing to also discuss his own future.

"Politically speaking, I ran two times for the Republican nomination," he says. "We came close in '96, and we'd have gotten it instead of [Bob] Dole with one more primary win. In 2000, we tried to create a new party. It didn't work. So my political career is probably over."

But Buchanan has no intention of abandoning public debate.

"I've done my best to say the things I thought necessary, and I intend to keep writing books and to keep speaking out," he says. "I love doing it. I hope the Lord gives me 25 more years. If people don't like me or my message, well, that's not my concern. Political correctness is almost an impenetrable shield of basic realities."

For education and discussion purposes only.


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To: Key
I do have a problem with the mere 10% of white people eliminating themselves.

And your solution to this is?

101 posted on 01/03/2002 11:49:52 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
A agree with you on 'whose money it is.' My point is that Buchanans proposal, taking into account all the non-white people in America, would go to many groups that would hurt his goals of a whiter America.

Then why did Buchanan propose it?????????

You must think you're so witty catching Buchanan accidently offering a tax break to non-whites.

102 posted on 01/03/2002 11:53:17 AM PST by PuNcH
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To: Poohbah
Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem. Buchanan isn't postulating an overall tax cut; he is postulating a tax cut IN RETURN FOR ENGAGING IN SPECIFIC BEHAVIORS.

Mothering isnt just a behavior is it?

I dont have a reading comprehension problem, YOU have a problem undstanding how human reproduction works.

104 posted on 01/03/2002 11:58:39 AM PST by PuNcH
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To: Key
I do have a problem with the mere 10% of white people eliminating themselves.

You mean you don't like it that white people die and don't replace themselves at the same rate?

What do you propose to do about it?

Buchanan seems to want to rile white folks to have more kids and to incent them by givin' 'em tax breaks to have kids else the blacks and the browns and the yellows outnumber them!

He'd be a more convincing apostle of all this procreation if he'd have had one or two himself.

106 posted on 01/03/2002 11:59:23 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Key
I wish I had one.... you can't force anyone to marry anyone. But, if there weren't so many non-whites around here, it wouldn't be that much of a problem. White young people would marry each other because there would be no other choice.

I think you answered part of my question--you can't force anyone to marry anyone. The second part of your answer is just sad.

107 posted on 01/03/2002 12:01:47 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Key
But, if there weren't so many non-whites around here, it wouldn't be that much of a problem.

Problem? Oh, boy.

108 posted on 01/03/2002 12:02:16 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Poohbah
Those who think that an 80-plus-year-old organization will have the same exact ideals and beliefs as its founders obviously never played "Telephone" as a child.

Those who, without good reason, think such ideals no longer exist, have not communicated well even as an adult.

The political Marxist nonsense was initiated in #55. I simply injected a bit of historical fact to bring the silly innuendo being offered into perspective.

109 posted on 01/03/2002 12:02:23 PM PST by eskimo
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To: Key
But, if there weren't so many non-whites around here, it wouldn't be that much of a problem. White young people would marry each other because there would be no other choice.

So now whites marrying non-whites is a big problem, for you?

How Aryan.

110 posted on 01/03/2002 12:04:27 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Either/Or
When a real American proudly advocates...

How much money did he donate to the Proposition 187 campaign?

111 posted on 01/03/2002 12:06:02 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: PuNcH
YOU have a problem undstanding how human reproduction works.

And you are missing the point. Which is, that one person should not be forced to subsidize the family of another.

That is what 'special tax breaks for Moms' do.

113 posted on 01/03/2002 12:12:02 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: DoughtyOne
Condemn me if you must, but that condemnation will not be limited to me. It's effects will be cast upon my children and their children, and your children and their children.

Well said.

A better title for Pat's book would have been Suicide of the West but, that was taken by a book authored by James Burhnam.

Isn't it amazing how many of the "doomed" are obliviously and even eagerly putting the gun to their own heritage and culture and pulling the fatal trigger?

114 posted on 01/03/2002 12:14:39 PM PST by Arator
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To: PuNcH
In the republican party today tax breaks evidently equal socialism and welfare.

Targeted tax breaks are socialism and welfare. Haven't you been paying attention to the DemocRats' (partially successful) attempts to replace the Bush tax cut plan with "targeted" cuts?

115 posted on 01/03/2002 12:18:18 PM PST by steve-b
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To: Catspaw
Elementary debating tactic: answer a question with another question to avoid answering the question put to you.

I did not ask you any questions.

BTW, I'm waiting for the list of names of the members of this administration who belong to Marxist organizations and the source of your information.

Somehow I do not think you are really interested; but if you are, someone listed the CFR membership list here a short time ago, go check it out.

116 posted on 01/03/2002 12:19:04 PM PST by eskimo
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To: Key
yes, I do have a problem with whites marrying non-whites if it will be the cause of us eliminating ourselves.

I asked you for the solution. All you did was lament. I want to know how you're going to prevent whites from marrying non-whites. You seem to indicate that sending non-white immigrants back to countries of origin would force whites to marry other whites, simply because there was no one else around. That won't solve the problem, because there would still be a number of non-whites left to intermarry with whites. So what is your solution to preventing interracial marriage to maintain the white race?

117 posted on 01/03/2002 12:19:31 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Arator
Isn't it amazing how many of the "doomed" are obliviously and even eagerly putting the gun to their own heritage and culture and pulling the fatal trigger?

David Duke?

118 posted on 01/03/2002 12:19:55 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: eskimo
Somehow I do not think you are really interested; but if you are, someone listed the CFR membership list here a short time ago, go check it out.

Sorry, that's your job. You made the allegation. Now prove it.

119 posted on 01/03/2002 12:20:20 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: PuNcH
Moms are different.

We are discussing the treatment of citizens by the state. In that context, differences based on special privilege are anathema to justice.

120 posted on 01/03/2002 12:21:04 PM PST by steve-b
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