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It's evening in America, Buchanan says, and immigrants are to blame (Buchanan interview)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram | 1/03/2002 | Jeff Guinn (Books Editor)

Posted on 01/03/2002 7:56:52 AM PST by sinkspur

Pat Buchanan is aware that potential readers of his new book already either adore him or disdain everything he writes "because I am the one writing it."

So in The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization (Thomas Dunne Books/St. Martin's Press, $25.95), the ex-presidential candidate and conservative pundit is trying to back up his apocalyptic projections with facts and figures provided by such disparate sources as "Russian leader Mr. Putin, a British archbishop and the United Nations. By drawing on what anyone would have to consider neutral sources, this makes my message far more powerful."

The gist of The Death of the West's messages:

Low birthrates are decimating the population of almost every European country - by 2050, only one-tenth of the world's population (America included) will be of European descent.

The unchecked influx of immigrants into America, legal and otherwise, is gradually handing the nation over to insurgents who come to force their foreign values on us rather than accepting ours.

Political correctness on the part of unwitting Americans plays into the hands of those who intend to obliterate our culture.

The events of Sept. 11 may provide enough of a wake-up call, Buchanan says, to make "the death of the West" only a threat rather than a certainty.

"The book is about a point I've been making for a long time, that the West is dying," Buchanan says during a lengthy phone conversation. "If we don't change how we do things, we'll be gone by the middle of this century, if not before. The horror of Sept. 11, I think, awoke a lot of Americans to new realities. It's a healthy thing to remember there are people out there who want to destroy us."

In Buchanan's opinion, it took terrorist attacks on New York City and the Washington, D.C., area to drive that message home to an American public more intent on hedonism than heroism.

"The '90s were a time of prosperity I've likened to the 1920s," Buchanan says. "The '20s were about money, drinking, jazz. The '90s were money, drugs, rock. The '20s ended with the stock market crash, the Depression, then on to Hitler, Tojo, Stalin. The 1990s ended on Sept. 11. We're at the kind of place Walter Lippmann called 'a plastic moment,' a time when people can change their destiny. I hope this book helps that. I'm not so much predicting these awful things will happen as saying, 'This is what the end is if the numbers remain the same.' "

Not that he holds much hope: "To many American young people, people like me belong to a bad old era. They've been taught that in school, indoctrinated in it. They want to say goodbye to the way our generation did things. This is why I don't think much will be done about the problems we face."

Buchanan acknowledges he's saying things that most Americans would prefer not to hear and that many condemn as racist and inflammatory.

"My response is that it's too late in the day for political correctness," he says. "After Sept. 11, with those acts perpetrated by people we literally welcomed into this country, Americans ought to be aware there is such a thing as too much diversity, too much welcoming. Look: I've said that if you bring 100 Zulu tribesmen into Virginia and 1 million British, the British would be assimilated more comfortably. I base that on those British coming into an American culture based on English law and tradition. And when I said that, something that seems like a simple statement, I've been accused of racism."

Now, Buchanan says, "I could substitute Iranians or Saudis for the Zulu, and people might understand." And, he adds, originally citing the Zulus was in no way racist "because I'm friends with the Zulu ruler. It's just a matter of acknowledging the differences in culture."

Potential immigrants should be judged by one measure, Buchanan adds: "Are they likely to carry on our culture, which makes America a unique country and civilization? Or are they not?"

Population explosions in Islamic, African and Latin American nations are coinciding with a decline in the U.S. birthrate, Buchanan notes, citing U.N. studies. To bolster "American cultural" numbers, Buchanan concludes in The Death of the West, American women should be encouraged via tax breaks to increase the country's population: "A free society cannot force women to have children, but a healthy society can reward those who preserve it by doing so."

Though he doesn't broach the subject in The Death of the West, in conversation Buchanan is willing to also discuss his own future.

"Politically speaking, I ran two times for the Republican nomination," he says. "We came close in '96, and we'd have gotten it instead of [Bob] Dole with one more primary win. In 2000, we tried to create a new party. It didn't work. So my political career is probably over."

But Buchanan has no intention of abandoning public debate.

"I've done my best to say the things I thought necessary, and I intend to keep writing books and to keep speaking out," he says. "I love doing it. I hope the Lord gives me 25 more years. If people don't like me or my message, well, that's not my concern. Political correctness is almost an impenetrable shield of basic realities."

For education and discussion purposes only.


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To: BnBlFlag
Thank you.
421 posted on 01/04/2002 11:02:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: rudeboy666
As i've said before, if people like Pat would restrict their critiques to culture and politics, then they would have a legitimate point.

You pinned my BS meter with that. Pat B. does limit his critiques to culture and politics. Of course people like you would label him and others that see the need for major immigration reform as xenophobic and racist in any and all events as soon as they start talking. Your crowd loses credibility the more you reflexively pull the racist card whenever someone disagrees with your reckless views on immigration.

425 posted on 01/04/2002 11:38:50 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Poohbah
might hear you using logic and common sense. Can't have that..

Well, those are two things you are obviously lacking.

428 posted on 01/05/2002 12:52:24 AM PST by dougherty
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To: sinkspur
It's about 4am at our house here, Pat.
430 posted on 01/05/2002 1:01:55 AM PST by Spruce
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To: DoughtyOne
Still, can you think of any other race on the planet that is being demanded to relinquish their majority status other than the United States and European nations? 

I can't think of any. And if it were to happen, the UN, the pc crowd, etc would be screaming bloody murder over it.

431 posted on 01/05/2002 1:24:16 AM PST by dougherty
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To: PuNcH
They wave their own flags and speak their own language and take their money back to their own country.

That is something they certainly do. I cannot count the number of businesses here that fly the Mexican flag outside of their business place. I don't see the flags of any Asian countries above these businesses, although we also have immigrants from there as well. Little by little, day by day, this place is turning into another Mexico.

435 posted on 01/05/2002 4:25:28 AM PST by dougherty
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To: sinkspur
Missing the BARF ALERT
436 posted on 01/05/2002 4:28:22 AM PST by tarpon_bill
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To: Okiegolddust
I have never seen so many meaningless buzzwords in a single post in all my time here at FR. I have no idea how to respond to the gobbledygook you just spouted.

To say that something's not bad is not to say that something is ideal. To anyone whose worldview isn't completely dominated by cranks on shortwave and/or has actually moved outside of a 50 mile radius of where I live in the past ten years would understand that many places on earth outside the US are more or less decent places to lives.

I've only said here that existing trends will probably lead towards greater international political and economic union and this isn't an issue of sentiment but rather of effiency.

People will spend whatever they can exchange for goods and services, be it dollars, yen, or euros without regard to nationalist sentiment. People will buy needed goods and services from wherever those goods and services are produced. We can make this process hard or we can make it easy. Making it easy means coordination of economic and political policies. Making it hard means introducing increaingly artificial speed bumps at national borders. No nation will be completely self-sufficient in the future. Look at how will juche has worked for North Korea or any other nation that tries it.

438 posted on 01/05/2002 8:06:30 AM PST by garbanzo
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To: garbanzo
Your proposed immigration policy vests complete power in corporate interests, which is contrary to the American tradition of having the American people (through their elected representatives) determine who can come to these shores.

If anyone with a job was allowed to come here, corporations would use immigrants to replace higher-paid American workers. They already are doing this, but your proposal would make this problem far worse. Of course, the corporations who were given carte blance over our immigration policy would also have no reason to look at broader societal costs of mass immigration or its long-term implications. Why not just abolish Congress and replace it with the Business Roundtable?

439 posted on 01/05/2002 8:15:17 AM PST by Thorin
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