It's evening in America, Buchanan says, and immigrants are to blame (Buchanan interview)

Pat Buchanan is aware that potential readers of his new book already either adore him or disdain everything he writes "because I am the one writing it."

So in The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization (Thomas Dunne Books/St. Martin's Press, $25.95), the ex-presidential candidate and conservative pundit is trying to back up his apocalyptic projections with facts and figures provided by such disparate sources as "Russian leader Mr. Putin, a British archbishop and the United Nations. By drawing on what anyone would have to consider neutral sources, this makes my message far more powerful."

Low birthrates are decimating the population of almost every European country - by 2050, only one-tenth of the world's population (America included) will be of European descent.

The unchecked influx of immigrants into America, legal and otherwise, is gradually handing the nation over to insurgents who come to force their foreign values on us rather than accepting ours.

Political correctness on the part of unwitting Americans plays into the hands of those who intend to obliterate our culture.

The events of Sept. 11 may provide enough of a wake-up call, Buchanan says, to make "the death of the West" only a threat rather than a certainty.

"The book is about a point I've been making for a long time, that the West is dying," Buchanan says during a lengthy phone conversation. "If we don't change how we do things, we'll be gone by the middle of this century, if not before. The horror of Sept. 11, I think, awoke a lot of Americans to new realities. It's a healthy thing to remember there are people out there who want to destroy us."

In Buchanan's opinion, it took terrorist attacks on New York City and the Washington, D.C., area to drive that message home to an American public more intent on hedonism than heroism.

"The '90s were a time of prosperity I've likened to the 1920s," Buchanan says. "The '20s were about money, drinking, jazz. The '90s were money, drugs, rock. The '20s ended with the stock market crash, the Depression, then on to Hitler, Tojo, Stalin. The 1990s ended on Sept. 11. We're at the kind of place Walter Lippmann called 'a plastic moment,' a time when people can change their destiny. I hope this book helps that. I'm not so much predicting these awful things will happen as saying, 'This is what the end is if the numbers remain the same.' "

Not that he holds much hope: "To many American young people, people like me belong to a bad old era. They've been taught that in school, indoctrinated in it. They want to say goodbye to the way our generation did things. This is why I don't think much will be done about the problems we face."

Buchanan acknowledges he's saying things that most Americans would prefer not to hear and that many condemn as racist and inflammatory.

"My response is that it's too late in the day for political correctness," he says. "After Sept. 11, with those acts perpetrated by people we literally welcomed into this country, Americans ought to be aware there is such a thing as too much diversity, too much welcoming. Look: I've said that if you bring 100 Zulu tribesmen into Virginia and 1 million British, the British would be assimilated more comfortably. I base that on those British coming into an American culture based on English law and tradition. And when I said that, something that seems like a simple statement, I've been accused of racism."

Now, Buchanan says, "I could substitute Iranians or Saudis for the Zulu, and people might understand." And, he adds, originally citing the Zulus was in no way racist "because I'm friends with the Zulu ruler. It's just a matter of acknowledging the differences in culture."

Potential immigrants should be judged by one measure, Buchanan adds: "Are they likely to carry on our culture, which makes America a unique country and civilization? Or are they not?"

Population explosions in Islamic, African and Latin American nations are coinciding with a decline in the U.S. birthrate, Buchanan notes, citing U.N. studies. To bolster "American cultural" numbers, Buchanan concludes in The Death of the West, American women should be encouraged via tax breaks to increase the country's population: "A free society cannot force women to have children, but a healthy society can reward those who preserve it by doing so."

Though he doesn't broach the subject in The Death of the West, in conversation Buchanan is willing to also discuss his own future.

"Politically speaking, I ran two times for the Republican nomination," he says. "We came close in '96, and we'd have gotten it instead of [Bob] Dole with one more primary win. In 2000, we tried to create a new party. It didn't work. So my political career is probably over."

"I've done my best to say the things I thought necessary, and I intend to keep writing books and to keep speaking out," he says. "I love doing it. I hope the Lord gives me 25 more years. If people don't like me or my message, well, that's not my concern. Political correctness is almost an impenetrable shield of basic realities."

In favor of inane is the fact that nearly everyone with IQ above 60 has a fairly good grasp on what an American is.

If it is so bloody easy, then why are none of you bothering to define it, or how making this distinction can be put into practice.

The rest of your post is the typical abusive Patsie garbage, spewed when they are intellectually cornered.

Ivan

Essentially the point is that if the rest of the world adopted the US constitution or something similar in the essential points what objection do we have to a world government based on that? I didn't offer to write up a world constitution but the idea is that as long my rights are protected I really don't care a lot about which flag flies or who's on the back of my currency - virtually no one does except "nationalists" who, oddly, are willing to kill for those things - not ideas or freedom, but stamps, currency, and flags.

Hey, only a Brit would proudly claim Monty. Well that's your prerogative, you did manage to pull at least a competent, albeit personally insufferable, military person out of the hat after a few tries

Monty won at El Alamein. What do you want? And that was my first try.

Idiot.

Ivan

You are talking about fantasy. In reality garbanzo, America is the free society that is being over-run by nationalist, tribalist illegal aliens who dont give a damn about America's laws or its constitution. These people's undeniable trend to the left by the vast majority of them shows that they think they are owed something from America. They wave their own flags and speak their own language and take their money back to their own country.

If you cant respect America's laws in regards to legal immigration and the protection of America's borders, that we as a lawful society agree in order live peaceably, is it possible that your objectivity is clouded by tribalism?

Winston didn't get on with Monty personally, but that didn't matter. Monty was an excellent commander, who put a great deal of thought and preparation into everything he did. And guess what, it won battles for him.

As for me calling you an idiot, sometimes things are what they are. You're an idiot for trying to engage in such idle Brit bashing when you know you'll have your head handed to you on the first go.

Ivan

So what - if wanted to send my money to some other country despite the fact of being a native-born citizen then what's your beef about that? How in a free society do you tell people how they can dispose of money.?And besides - where do you think that money will eventually end up? Along the line someone is going to have to spend that money on US goods. Besides - why is it that many of you support giving money to churches to give to poor people in other countries - wouldn't it be more efficient and beneficial to everyone to let them earn money here rather than have a religious or secular charity be the middleman?

"Clinton: "Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than fifty years there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time." As someone who used to live in New York City, there is no majority race in New York City anymore because the whites who arent liberals fled during the Koch and Dinkins years...

How in a free society do you tell people how they can dispose of money.?

Yah its a free society isnt it. You just come over the border regardless of the laws and dip into the public welfare, work under the table to avoid taxes and take your money out of the country. Guess who ends up paying for that?

What reasoning are you using that makes you think it is legitimate to disregard our countries laws?

The US government is 100% responsible for the failure to enforce our immigration laws

Yes they are. And this is no mistake or accident. This is all intentional.

The politicians and our so-called leaders don't want a free, educated sovereign America. They don't want a populace of intelligent people asking questions. They want ignorant, stupid masses that will be happy just making a tiny wage while working their asses off. And they are importing these types of people by the *millions*.

Con men always look for the simple minded and ignorant to perpetrate their schemes on

Con men always look for the simple minded and ignorant to perpetrate their schemes on.

Judging from some of the empty headed statements I've seen here, they didn't have to look too hard.

The Cons Piracy = ignorant, stupid masses that will be happy just making a tiny wage while working their asses off.

When is Buchanan going to realize that Western civilization has been held together by Western ideals, not his white skin color?

When are you going to realize that it was Western civilization that happens to be "white" which created the western ideals of economic and personal liberty, freedom of speech and many other human rights as is embodied in our constitution. Pat makes the obvious connection that most other cultures around the world reject in part or whole many of our western values. Since history has demonstrated time and again that culture is highly resistant to change this should not give much comfort to the notion that most immigrants from non-European nations magically become Americanized after a few years of living here. They don't.

Essentially the point is that if the rest of the world adopted the US constitution or something similar in the essential points what objection do we have to a world government based on that?

LOL. Sure, like the rest of the world, which by and large does not believe in the liberties we enjoy here, are going to drop their centuries old varying degrees of oppression and copy and enforce our U.S. Constitution, just to placate you One Worlders. You are a space cadet.

I live next to one. But they have better things to spend their cash on than books by a failed politician who only garnered .8% of the vote. I am rare among Brits for having heard of him in the first place.

Pat didn't do so well in 2000 that's true, but in 1996 he was winning right through to the New Hampshire primary, but then the media AND the republicans ganged up on him like anything I've ever seen. It is hard to stay popular when you're endlessly demonized. They did that because they don't like his message, which is the need to lower mass immigration.

But whether Pat is popular or not himself doesn't matter, what he's saying is. After 30 years of mass immigration shoved down our throats by both political parties without once ever asking us if this is what we want, most of us are starting to say enough

And I don't know how encouraging American couples to have babies is Nazism. It was done right after WW2 for obvious reasons. They call it the babyboom. Was it Nazism then? Tell that to the men who came back from the war fighting them.

My view on how immigration should be handled is this - anyone who has a job lined up should be able to get a green card. Lose your job, lose your green card until you get another one. This obviously doesn't apply to people with serious criminal records in their countries of origin and a felony conviction here means you lose your eligibility for a green card forever after serving time in a US prison.

After a period of time you can apply for citizenship.

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