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Essentially the point is that if the rest of the world adopted the US constitution or something similar in the essential points what objection do we have to a world government based on that? I didn't offer to write up a world constitution but the idea is that as long my rights are protected I really don't care a lot about which flag flies or who's on the back of my currency - virtually no one does except "nationalists" who, oddly, are willing to kill for those things - not ideas or freedom, but stamps, currency, and flags.

You are talking about fantasy. In reality garbanzo, America is the free society that is being over-run by nationalist, tribalist illegal aliens who dont give a damn about America's laws or its constitution. These people's undeniable trend to the left by the vast majority of them shows that they think they are owed something from America. They wave their own flags and speak their own language and take their money back to their own country.

If you cant respect America's laws in regards to legal immigration and the protection of America's borders, that we as a lawful society agree in order live peaceably, is it possible that your objectivity is clouded by tribalism?

So what - if wanted to send my money to some other country despite the fact of being a native-born citizen then what's your beef about that? How in a free society do you tell people how they can dispose of money.?And besides - where do you think that money will eventually end up? Along the line someone is going to have to spend that money on US goods. Besides - why is it that many of you support giving money to churches to give to poor people in other countries - wouldn't it be more efficient and beneficial to everyone to let them earn money here rather than have a religious or secular charity be the middleman?

They wave their own flags and speak their own language and take their money back to their own country.

That is something they certainly do. I cannot count the number of businesses here that fly the Mexican flag outside of their business place. I don't see the flags of any Asian countries above these businesses, although we also have immigrants from there as well. Little by little, day by day, this place is turning into another Mexico.