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To: Cap'n Crunch
Thank you! I sincerely appreciate your cogent and full answer, and the material.

Now, the next question, if you don't mind. The Bible does not really provide a "definition" of grace, but in all the places it is mentioned, there is always implied that it is favor, acceptance, or blessing of God that is provided entirely without merit or deserving, and entirely because of God's mercy, kindness, and "graciousness."

In the Catholic religion there are many things which are proscribed as being "means" to grace. But if grace is wholly unmerited, and there is nothing man can do to get it, how can there be a "means" to grace?

A "means" to grace would make it something that is purchased by certain religious acts or rituals, but of course that would not be grace, would it?

Hank

285 posted on 01/06/2002 4:47:43 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
I'm not quite sure I'm following your question but I think this answer by St. Augustine may cover it.

"God has become our debtor not as though He has recieved something from us, but because He has promised what pleased Him. It is a different thing when we say to a man, 'You are my debtor because I have given you something,' and when we say to God, 'Give us what Thou hast promised, for we have done what Thou didst command!'

287 posted on 01/06/2002 5:09:15 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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