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To: ken21
Like all things, price counts... up on #2, RK quoted $65 a barrel; obviously out of the question unless oil goes sky-high.

Just anecdotally, I recall hearing that the Germans had a lot of problems with fuel & lube oil gotten from coal... supposedly it was not as good as that cracked from liquid petroleum.... but this is from a long-ago memory, and not reliable.

The bigger point is, however, that even without going more heavily nuclear ( which I think should be top priority ) we have plenty of energy on our own continent, and offshore, that it is the height of folly to depend on those thugs in the middle east for oil & gas.

By the way, I keep forgetting to add these links:

Oil may not be a dwindling resource after all:

The world has more oil not less

The Origin of Methane (and Oil) in the Crust of the Earth
Thomas Gold
U.S.G.S. Professional Paper 1570, The Future of Energy Gases, 1993

PETROLEUM RESERVES EVALUATED WITH MODERN PETROLEUM SCIENCE

Another Washington Post article here

And how costly was clinton's celebrity-driven scam in Utah?

The Utah Coal Lockup: A trillion dollar Lippo payoff?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/lippo.htm

Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument: Conservation and ...
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument: Conservation
and Controversy. Petrified Woody's ...
Description: "This million-plus acre area needs protection from uncontrolled development, but at what cost?...

-``Behind Closed Doors: The Abuse of Trust And Discretion In The Establishment Of The Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.''--

-Four Years Later, Locals Still Decry Clinton Monument --

-Coalgate--that ugly Lippo-Klink-Redford connection to tyranny--

-Clinton's Utah deal not justified-WND story--

Energy and Mineral Resources, Grand Staircase - Escalante ...
Utah Geological Survey. ... A Preliminary Assessment of Energy and Mineral Resources
within the Grand Staircase - Escalante National Monument. ...

47 posted on 01/01/2002 1:24:41 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
no disagreement here.

the nuclear battle was fought and lost a generation ago when jane fonda made that anti-nuclear movie, and many people believed it. what a cheap piece of propaganda.

there's oil off the california coast but baboxer isn't going to let go of it.

48 posted on 01/01/2002 1:31:54 PM PST by ken21
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