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Armed citizens can make it more difficult for attackers (John Lott)
Detroit News ^ | 12/30 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 12/30/2001 10:35:09 AM PST by Dan from Michigan

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

With the FBI issuing alerts, what should American's do to protect themselves? We have all heard that we should be observant and report strange events to the police. In the last weeks, other things have been added to the list, such as be careful of letters with powdery substances. Yet, one option has not been encouraged. News articles mention the large increase in gun sales that have taken place since Sept. 11, but fail to mention the benefits and belittle those who buy the guns. We could learn something about responding to terrorism from Israel, and encourage more ordinary, responsible citizens to carry guns.


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To: vouslescaves

21 posted on 12/30/2001 2:16:46 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Mercuria
Thanks for the Ping J

BRAAD
BUMP!
24 posted on 12/30/2001 2:23:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Mercuria
Hitting in the black,fire for effect!
25 posted on 12/30/2001 2:24:18 PM PST by tet68
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To: Dan from Michigan
Stay away from those government-created gun-free victimization zones, and you'll have no problem with terrorism. Places such as public buildings, public schools (sporting events), public aircraft and airports, etc., any large gatherings of unarmed citizen-victims.
26 posted on 12/30/2001 2:25:19 PM PST by Z-28
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To: pocat
Let's Roll!!

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LoanPalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

28 posted on 12/30/2001 2:31:58 PM PST by LonePalm
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To: vouslescaves
Welcome to freerepublic, mon amie...What was that about crime rate in Kanada?...heh heh heh...any stats on that one?

Enjoy yer next flight...possibly to Kanada?

FReegards...

FMCDH

29 posted on 12/30/2001 2:34:20 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: vouslescaves
Well, tell me now. Why is it that in Canada for example where you are not allowed to carry a gun there is almost no death by gunshot and the level of criminality is so low comparing to us?

Some have tried to attribute Canada's relatively low homicide rate to its current gun control laws -- although Canada actually had a lower homicide rate than the U.S. even before its current legislation went into effect. The overall homicide rate in Canada is around two per hundred thousand, compared to nine per hundred thousand in the U.S.; firearms are involved in less than one-third of Canada's homicides.

Canada has had registration of handguns since 1934. Legislation currently in Parliament would, reports the Fraser Institute of Vancouver, make registration of all firearms mandatory and lead to the confiscation of more than 50 percent of the handguns now held by Canadians. A Fraser study by Gary Mauser indicates that since more restrictive firearms laws took place in 1988, the number of those holding guns legally has dropped 19 percent. The robbery rate with a firearm during that period, however, has more than doubled. Also during the same period, the overall violent crime rate has increased 29 percent.

Source: "THE RIGHT ANSWERS"
Volume 11, Number 21 - October 16, 1995
THE NEW AMERICAN -

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Statistical reporting by the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics shows that two-thirds of all Canadian homicides do not involve firearms. Stabbing, beating and strangulation account for the majority.

Two-thirds of all accused murderers had prior criminal records, and 69% were prohibited from acquiring or possessing firearms due to previous violent offences. Adequate enforcement of existing laws was what was necessary to change those numbers - existing law enforcement.

Alcohol and drug use was evident in over 50% of all homicides in 1993. Historically alcohol abuse has been estimated as the most important contributing factor in two of every three homicides in Canada. Accordingly, efforts to reduce homicides should concentrate on reducing alcohol abuse.

Domestic homicides by firearms comprise only 11% of all the homicides in Canada. These crimes of passion are almost always preceded by a long history of domestic turmoil. In 1991, 44% of all domestic murderers had a previous record of violent conflict committed between the hours of 10 p.m. and 2 a.m. with any object close at hand and by persons under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Existing laws, properly enforced, should be used to prevent that 11%.

Between 1974 and 1992 over 60% of all domestic homicides in Canada involved weapons other than firearms, with alcohol and drug abuse a relevant factor in 64%.

--Mr. Rick Morgan, Monday, May 15, 1995
Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters,
National Coalition of Provincial and Territorial Wildlife Federations
Source: http://www.parl.gc.ca/committees/jula/evidence/137_95-05-15/jula137_blk101.html

Well, tell me now. Why is it that in Great Britain, Australia, South Africa, Washington DC, for example where you are not allowed to carry a gun there is alot of death by gunshot and the level of criminality is so high comparing to us?

30 posted on 12/30/2001 2:35:17 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: vouslescaves
"...commonly compared foreign nations with strict gun controls had lower violence rates before controls were implemented,...one therefore cannot conclude from such simple cross-national comparisons that stricter gun controls reduced violence." [51]

Kleck, Point Blank

http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Research/Observations/chapters/2/4.html

32 posted on 12/30/2001 2:37:39 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: vouslescaves
Well, tell me now. Why is it that in Canada for example where you are not allowed to carry a gun there is almost no death by gunshot and the level of criminality is so low comparing to us? If I follow your logic, all criminals should go there, they are defensless.... but still we are the ones having children killing classmates in school.... go figure...

Violent crimes involving firearms are caused by violent people, not violent firearms. There are bad people out there, as well as bad kids. Guns are not the problem. Not holding people accountable for their actions is the problem.

Please state your source of info regarding your Canadian answer. Where firearms are restricted, crime will raise. Where firearms are permitted for use and carry by responsible citizens, crime will lower.

33 posted on 12/30/2001 2:38:43 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: vouslescaves; mercuria; glock rocks
" Oh yeah...that's what I want... a bunch of moron firing guns in airplanes at the first sign of trouble. "

That‘s the kind of drivel I expect from gun Control FANATICS
If I have a gun I‘m a moron
If I have a tactical advantage of my weapon the first thing I‘ll do is
wup it out and hurt YOU!!!
Since I‘ve been carrying I‘ve always wupped out my piece at the first instance of trouble
Do YOU really believe this crap?? GET A GRIP!!

36 posted on 12/30/2001 2:44:13 PM PST by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: lowbridge
Thanks lowbridge...was gonna research the stats, but yer way faster than me...(see#29)...seems we got another newbie that needs set straight...oh well...

FRgards,

FMCDH

37 posted on 12/30/2001 2:46:25 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: vouslescaves
Oh yeah? Responsible? How do you mesure that? You take urine sample?

Only if you get to hold the cup.

38 posted on 12/30/2001 2:49:03 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: vouslescaves
"Oh yeah...that's what I want... a bunch of moron firing guns in airplanes at the first sign of trouble."

Why is it you feel law abiding citizens with guns are morons who shoot at the first sign of trouble?

Sounds like the liberal "guns are evil, people with guns are evil" mantra, or the "if we let them carry guns, we will have "wild west" shootouts in the streets".

39 posted on 12/30/2001 2:50:17 PM PST by Bob Mc
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To: lowbridge
Thanks for the back up info. You're pretty quick on the draw.
40 posted on 12/30/2001 2:50:33 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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