Vernon Jordan on his memoirs: clinton friendship omitted because goal was to restore my reputation

BOOKNOTES (C-SPAN) | 12-24-01 | Mia T

[StriperSniper]

I almost felt sorry for Davis, he looked like he felt guilty for accepting the job to spin. I'm waiting for him to break, you can see his heart is not in it.

[Mia T]

Davis has sported that conflicted, weepy look for years...Bush put it well, "Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."

[Elle Bee]

Vernon Jordan admits to Brian Lamb: clinton friendship not included in my memoirs because the purpose of the book was to restore my reputation

.......... reputation ???

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[Mia T]

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[Alberta's Child]

Sounds like an article I read a few years ago about Japanese history books. The period from 1930 to 1945 is omitted from these books, probably for the same reason.

[laredo44]

Vernon Jordan on his memoirs: clinton friendship omitted because goal was to restore my reputation

If consorting with Clinton has soiled Jordan's reputation, as Jordan suggests, the restorative is to repudiate Clinton, not ignore him. That Jordan chooses the latter reveals either cosmic sized hole in his ability to reason or a desire to continue to hoodwink the public, neither of which will lead to the restoration of his reputation. Vernon needs to tell what he knows even though that might lead to some jail time. Only then will he be able to begin to get his reputation back.

[Mia T]

If consorting with Clinton has soiled Jordan's reputation, as Jordan suggests, the restorative is to repudiate Clinton, not ignore him. That Jordan chooses the latter reveals either cosmic sized hole in his ability to reason or a desire to continue to hoodwink the public, neither of which will lead to the restoration of his reputation. Vernon needs to tell what he knows even though that might lead to some jail time. Only then will he be able to begin to get his reputation back.

7 posted on 12/24/01 5:50 AM Pacific by laredo44

 

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Even if Vernon Jordan weren't going the reputation-refurbishing route, he would have had a logistics problem including the rapist in his memoirs. The clinton-Jordon relationship was/is all about corruption.

[OldFriend]

Watched an early conversation with Charley Rose......Jordan couldn't even make eye contact during some of his blatant lies........

Haven't seen him since but IMHO he traded his soul to be a slave on the clinton plantation and was probably willing to do the slave act long before slick willie came on the scene. There is no integrity at all, no honor, just a certain slyness!

[RightOnline]

Vernon Jordan was well known inside the Beltway, but virtually unknown outside of it until he was identified as one of Clinton's bestest buddies. Rather ironic that A) he felt compelled to write his memoirs (just who here knows of ANYONE who would buy an autobiography of a crook like Jordan?) and B) that he would omit any discussion of the very relationship that put him in the public eye.

Jordan should be very, very worried. He knows where too many bodies are buried..........literally and figuratively. He also is keenly aware of what has happened to others with such knowledge of the Clintons in the past.

[Mia T]

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Wouldn't it be a hoot if Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton, retrograde-obsessing historiographers decide, in the end, to strike the depraved duo from their tomes??!!

 

 

 

 

I think that history will view this much differently. They will say I made a bad personal mistake, I paid a serious price for it, but that I was right to stand and fight for my country and my constitution and its principles...

-----the First Psychopath, himself

 

 

 

 

...[bill clinton], a man who will be regarded in the history books as one of our greatest presidents.

-----Al Gore at clinton's post-impeachment rally

 

I suspect that, to spite us all,

Arthur Schlesinger will live to 120

just so he can write

the definitive clinton hagiography.

--------Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted

   

History Lesson

by Mia T

 

Someone--was it Maupassant?--

once called history "that excitable and lying old lady."

The same can be said of historians.

 

Surely it can be said of Doris Kearns Goodwin,

the archetypical pharisaical historian,

not-so-latently clintonoid,

Lieberman-Paradigmatic

(i.e., clinton is an unfit president;

therefore clinton must remain president),

intellectually dishonest,

(habitually doing what the Arthur Schlesingers of this world do:

making history into the proof of their theories).

 

The Forbids 400's argument is shamelessly spurious.

They get all unhinged over the impeachment of clinton,

claiming that it will

"leave the presidency permanently disfigured and diminished,

at the mercy as never before of the caprices of any Congress."

 

Yet they dismiss the real and present--and future!!--danger

to the presidency and the country

of not impeaching and removing

this admittedly unfit, (Goodwin)

"documentably dysfunctional," (NYT)

presidency-diminishing, (Goodwin)

power-abusing,

psychopathic thug.

 

Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other

hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,

retrograde-obsessing historiographers

are a supercilious, power-hungry,

egomaniacal lot in their own right.

 

For them, clinton validates

what Ogden Nash merely hypothesized:

Any buffoon can make history,

but only a great man can write it.

 

 

[Mia T]

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[backhoe]

Well, Mr. Jordan can try, but I think he's been immutably smeared by his association... like everyone else!

[StarFan]

The eponymous host swiftly stopped the spin (and the spin). O'Reilly debunked all the shameless clinton-directed revisionism spewed by Davis

Help Mia -- I can't believe I missed Lanny (who reached rock bottom and is beginning to dig) Davis and your links don't seem to work. Hopefully Fox has a transcript of the show.

[Mia T]

Excellent point.

Racist demagogues like the clintons require willing "victims" like Vernon Jordon.

clintonism and the theology of contempt

by Mia T

 

 

Let us hope that the rabbi's question was merely rhetorical. . . Let us hope that Rabbi Potasnik, and by extension, New York Jews, are not as credulous and obsequious and passive as they appear. . .

 

The simple answer to the rabbi's question is that the corrupt, self-serving, anti-Semitic, power-hungry harpy cannot be trusted.

 

Weren't we to never forget?

 

The Holocaust must remain, for Jew and Christian alike, a constant reminder that mass credulity and obsequiousness and passivity are necessary for the demagogue to prevail.

 

To remember that six million Jews died in the Holocaust is to understand that centuries of anti-Semitic attitudes made this horror possible. We must ask ourselves what role our society played through the centuries that in any way contributed to the atmosphere that made such a genocide even thinkable.

 

Which brings me to the clintons and clintonism. . .

 

Senator Patrick Moynihan proffered one of the more incisive operant definitions of clintonism -- "defining deviancy down."

 

Defining deviancy down, indeed.

clintonism has made personal and public perversions, personal and public predations, not merely thinkable, not merely acceptable, but de rigueur. (Watch us spin. . . and spin.}

 

clintonism is the theology of contempt. Not merely toward "F___ing Jew-bastards," not merely toward "lazy niggers" or "extra-chromosome right-wingers" but toward any of us whose ideas are different from those of the clintons, Gore, and their acolytes.

 

So the real question to be answered is this:

"What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would want to continue

with its theology of contempt?

What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would vote for hillary clinton or Al Gore?"

 

[tacticalogic]

It's like crawling out of the septic tank, and then being careful to scrape the dog doo off your shoe before you go in the house.

[Texbob]

A book of lies from Vernon Jordan is not going to restore his reputation. He will forever be know as one who accepted as normal, oral sex in the oval office during work hours and lying about it to the whole nation on TV by Clinton. "I did not have sex with that woman", then trying to say blow jobs were not sex. He dug himself a hole in which there is no way out.

[Mia T]

 

Vernon Jordan was well known inside the Beltway, but virtually unknown outside of it until he was identified as one of Clinton's bestest buddies. Rather ironic that A) he felt compelled to write his memoirs (just who here knows of ANYONE who would buy an autobiography of a crook like Jordan?) and B) that he would omit any discussion of the very relationship that put him in the public eye.

Jordan should be very, very worried. He knows where too many bodies are buried..........literally and figuratively. He also is keenly aware of what has happened to others with such knowledge of the Clintons in the past.

posted on 12/24/01 6:26 AM Pacific by RightOnline

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Excellent points.

As for the buried bodies, literal and figurative, I'm sure clinton's ol' golf buddy found pal Ron Brown's -- uh -- dénouement, as well as Jesse Jackson's -- uh -- handling of same, quite instructive...

Wall Street Project, clinton, Jesse Jackson and the Death of Ron Brown

At least in the case of Ron Brown, why aren't Americans aggressively pushing Congress and the Justice Department to get at the truth? James Dale Davidson has a theory:

 

"We're in the point of a hillbilly song, and the line was, 'We really don't want to know.' I really don't want to know. People sometimes shy away from unhappy truths."

Gary Lane

Dying to Tell: The Mysterious Deaths of Clinton Colleagues

Jesse Jackson calls for probe of Ron Brown's death

By PAUL SHEPARD, Associated Press Writer

Copyright © 1998 Nando.net
Copyright © 1998 The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (January 6, 1998 01:18 a.m. EST -- Jesse Jackson said Monday the death of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown should be investigated "to relieve people of reasonable doubt."

"There is everything to be gained from pursuing an investigation," Jackson said in an interview with New York City talk radio host Gary Byrd. "It may only prove that he was not murdered. But that would relieve people of reasonable doubt."

Air Force Lt. Col. Steve Cogswell, a deputy medical examiner at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, said in November that an unusual wound at the top of Brown's head could have been a bullet hole, and an autopsy should have been done to find out.

Cogswell did not participate in the examination of Brown's body after it was returned from Croatia. No autopsy was conducted.

Government investigators concluded that Brown died of multiple injuries sustained in the crash of the Air Force plane in which he was a passenger. The plane slammed into a mountain in Croatia in April 1996, killing all 35 aboard.

Col. William T. Gormley, the assistant armed forces medical examiner who conducted the external examination of Brown's corpse, was quoted in an Air Force statement as saying he had ruled out the possibility of a gunshot wound.

"Due to the initial appearance of Brown's injuries we carefully considered the possibility of a gunshot wound," Gormley said. "However, scientific data, including X-rays, ruled out that possibility."

But the government statements have done little to quell the controversy, especially among some influential blacks like NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and Rep. Maxine Waters, head of the Congressional Black Caucus. Both have called for further investigation of Brown's death.

Two weeks ago, civil rights activist Dick Gregory was arrested during a protest outside the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington to demand an independent investigation into Brown's death.

"I think people have a right to know what really happened," Jackson said.

 

Parallax View, Posthumous Treason

by Mia T

 

On 15 January 1998, standard issue clinton hush money passed flagrante delicto right under the Fourth Estate's patrician nose, the congenital skew of which apparently restricting its line of sight to the obvious payoff. (Conservative estimate puts the permanent elitist nasal tilt at 60º with the horizon compounded by a severe, left-deviated septum.)

 

You may recall that immediately after various world-class forensic experts (some of them devout Democrats who twice voted for clinton) identified a probable bullet wound atop Ron Brown's head, Reverend Jesse Jackson and his Black Caucus cohorts were literally screaming for an independent investigation of the Brown death, demanding an immediate exhumation and autopsy.

 

Two points to ponder:

 

•Under federal law Brown's cabinet position mandated an autopsy

 

•Brown died in a plane crash far more -- shall we say ambiguous -- than the crash that took the life of JFK, Jr. whose autopsy was both a given and instantaneous.

 

Back to that week in January...

It was a rather busy week for clinton, what with his own sexual-predation/perjury/obstruction-of-justice deposition on Saturday, Ken Starr combing through his congenitally corrupt wife's crimebook on Wednesday, Alexis Herman being added to that burgeoning list of corrupt cabinet clintonoids as of Thursday and Saddam jerking him around every day.

 

 

Yet Clinton somehow found the time to journey to Wall Street to aid and abet Jesse Jackson in his continued racial extortion of corporate America. The immediate payoff for Jackson -- $500,000, with potential millions to follow ($2,250,000 in 1998 alone, according to Bill O'Reilly)

 

It is noteworthy that after 15 January 1998, Jesse Jackson and the Black Caucus never again mentioned the need for an autopsy or an independent investigation of Ron Brown's death.

 

[Mr. Bungle]

"A book of lies from Vernon Jordan is not going to restore his reputation. "

Exactly. It will be at best akin to a cheap Earl Scheib paint job on, let's say, an El Camino.

[YaYa123]

"Lanny Davis Davis has sported that conflicted, weepy look" No wonder Mia!!!
He's in booksales hell, along with Joe Conason, Gene Lyons, and Jeffrey Toobin.

Did anyone even know Lanny wrote a book? It's laughingly titled:

Truth to Tell : Tell It Early, Tell It All, Tell It Yourself : Notes from My White House Education

(Amazon.com Sales Rank: 70,624)

Pardon me while I LMAO!

Merry Christmas, Mia