[MadameAxe]

Well, there's different sorts of taxation. User fees aren't necessarily coercive.

I was mentally defining "socialist" as someone who wants to collect funds from individuals, beyond the purpose of the common defense of their liberty and property, to redistribute as "social" benefits to some utopian end. I didn't bother to look it up though; do you have a definition of "socialist" handy?

[Torie]

The traditional definition of socialist is one who thinks the government should own the means of production. That has little or no saliency now.

[rdb3]

I don't believe it was me who wrote what you are replying to.