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The moral minefield of a boy's dying wish
www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au ^ | 21dec01 | LUCY CLARK

Posted on 12/21/2001 11:46:28 AM PST by LiveFree2000

The moral minefield of a boy's dying wish

21dec01
Is it right or wrong to grant a dying teenaged boy his wish to have sex? LUCY CLARK examines a modern ethical dilemma:

A 15 YEAR-OLD boy is terminally ill with cancer. He knows he doesn't have very long to live, and he has a dying wish. It is not to go to Disneyland or to meet his favourite actor, rock or sports star but it is this: he wants to make love to a woman.

But there's a problem – he's in hospital, he doesn't want to talk to his mum and dad about it, and having been sick and in and out of hospital since the age of 12, he has formed no friendships or relationships with girls from his peer group.

The boy, let's call him Jack, simply wants to experience what every testosterone-driven heterosexual teenage boy thinks about, allegedly, every 17 seconds. Sex.

So what does he do?

It sounds like a hypothetical situation, but this story is true and Jack is real. His heartbreaking story about death and desire came to light last month when the child psychologist dealing with Jack wrote a letter to the Radio National program, Life Matters, in which moral dilemmas are discussed by academics.

It's a fascinating topic for academic discussion: how does a minor and the people who care for him tread though the ethical and practical minefield to see that he gets such a wish?

And firstly, should he even be granted his wish?

While many of us might scream reflexively "Yes! Of course!", cautious ethicists may ask questions.

Is a 15 year-old, officially a child, intellectually and emotionally competent to make such a mature decision? Do the parents have a right to know? Should the woman involved be charged with the criminal offence of having sex with a minor? Should a prostitute be involved? Should the hospital staff help to organise something?

All valid questions ripe for discussion, but forget the academic debate. What happened to Jack himself?

Yesterday, the child psychologist – who wishes to remain anonymous – told The Daily Telegraph the rest of the dying boy's story.

He had become involved after a nurse tending Jack – the only person Jack took into his confidence – urged the boy to talk to him.

So Jack spoke to the child psychologist, who specifically deals with children dying of terminal diseases, and this was not the first time the psychologist had heard of such a wish from a teenage boy.

"He had been sick for quite a long period and his schooling was very disrupted, so he hadn't had many opportunities to acquire and retain friends, and his access to young women was pretty poor," said the psychologist.

"But he was very interested in young women and was experiencing that surge of testosterone that teenage boys have."

So Jack and the psychologist had a series of thorough discussions in which they went through every possible permutation of what might happen to him physically and emotionally so that he was "completely prepared" for the prospect of living out his final dream.

Jack's state of mind, he said, was sensible and mature and psychologically, totally competent. As he said: "Terminally ill kids get very wise, very quickly" and Jack had been sick for a long time.

The hospital staff who knew about Jack's wish at first wanted to help, their first reaction being "let's do a whip around and pay for a prostitute" but of course ethical and legal considerations stopped them in their tracks.

The psychologist also had canvassed members of the clergy, and found an interesting response: "It really polarised them, about half said what's your problem? And the other half said [the idea] demeans women and reduces the sexual act to being just a physical one.

"I just saw it as a legitimate request of a young man who wants to experience something that can do no harm."

The psychologist said that with Jack, he rigorously questioned what damage might be done to him as a result of fulfilling his wish, and the answer came up every time: none.

"Everyone's uncomfortable with teenage sex, period," said the psychologist. "Adolescents becoming sexual is enormously confronting, and a lot of people believe that kids shouldn't be sexual. But we are sexual from the womb to the tomb – that's my view.

"But ethics and morals aside, in children dying over a long period of time, there is often a condition we call 'skin hunger'."

This happens when a child, seriously ill and in and out of hospital and receiving medical treatment over a long period, yearns for non-clinical contact because "mostly when people touch them, it's to do something unpleasant, something that might hurt".

"So you ask," said the psychologist, "what was this young man wanting?

"Was he wanting a cuddle?"

Probably yes, but as his illness and its treatment hadn't obliterated his normal teenage urges, he also really wanted that consummate experience.

So without his parents knowing, and completely without the involvement of the hospital staff, and not – it must be stressed – on the hospital's premises, Jack "did engage in the act and it was everything he wished it to be".

"He was very, very happy and only slightly disappointed that it was over quickly."

"The act", his dying wish, was with a sex worker who was "organised by friends who thought it was the right thing to do". All precautions were taken, and the friends made sure the act was fully consensual and involved no abuse or exploitation.

As for the legal ramifications of such a case, "quite clearly the law was broken, but of the people involved, most didn't give a toss," the psychologist said.

And what of the parent's right to know about their son?

Jack simply didn't want to talk to them about it.

He loved them, but they are religious and he didn't want them to know. Anyway, what 15-year-old boy does want to talk to his parents about sex, even under normal circumstances?

There is also legal precedence for a minor of sufficient maturity and intelligence to be given confidential medical treatment but does sex with a prostitute count as treatment?

"Absolutely. It is absolutely part of therapy," said the psychologist, "Because it was what he wanted. People talk about a trip to Disneyland being therapeutic what's the difference? It was what he wanted."

So Jack got what he wanted, and last week, he finally lost his fight with the cancer.

 


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To: allend
They can get to heaven if they repent. It would be nice to think the kid got a chance to repent before he died.

Isn't it the Jesuits who are credited with the oft used line, "It is easier to obtain forgiveness than to obtain permission"?

61 posted on 12/21/2001 12:17:10 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: LiveFree2000
Is a 15 year-old, officially a child, intellectually and emotionally competent to make such a mature decision?

Planned Parenthood seems to think so.

Do the parents have a right to know?

Planned Parenthood doesn't seem to think so.

Regarding the article though, what a strange set of circumstances to weigh. Without condoning his actions, my heart certainly goes out to him.

62 posted on 12/21/2001 12:17:22 PM PST by agrace
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To: allend
A chance? Not many go without a chance, are there? He knew he was dying, he was on his way out in a hospital. He (had/will have) his chance
63 posted on 12/21/2001 12:17:39 PM PST by WindMinstrel
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To: frmrda
That's a good response. I can only think of all the other joys he was deprived of while undergoing treatment and knowing his death was immenent. To cross this one usually forbidden line doesn't offset the horror he must have gone through but it might have given him a small lift in the midst of his suffering and I, for one, could not hold such a thing against him.

As a Christian, I wish more people would use Scripture as a lamp instead of a sledgehammer, particularly when mercy and compassion are more sought than a lecture or a doctrinal thesis. I will not say what becomes of this child - it is God's to decide. That's what makes Him so difficult for us finite creatures to fully contemplate when we seek rigid answers.

64 posted on 12/21/2001 12:17:51 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: angelo
Since when is there a 'right' to have sex anyway?

You are joking arn't you?

65 posted on 12/21/2001 12:18:25 PM PST by Lysander
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To: allend
More specifically, allend, the word used in the passage you cite (as well as in Paul's letters) is PORNOS.

It is defined as a male prostitute or, more generally, "a man who indulges in unlawful sexual intercourse."

If you want to convince folks that the boy sinned, you must show us -- from the O.T. law -- why the act was "unlawful."

Regards.

66 posted on 12/21/2001 12:18:28 PM PST by backup
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
My guess is that he what he wanted was either multiple quickies with a hooker or a quickie with multiple hookers.

Yes, that would be consistent with the 'Libertarian' way, wouldn't it?

67 posted on 12/21/2001 12:18:44 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: right_to_defend
It sure worked to control you, didn't it?

you might have to back up your name after a juvenile comment like that. Nice.

68 posted on 12/21/2001 12:19:30 PM PST by Chipper
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To: FormerLib
Bump!!!!!!
69 posted on 12/21/2001 12:20:04 PM PST by dvan
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To: angelo
Why? You have your eye on one?
70 posted on 12/21/2001 12:20:12 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Tall_Texan
I think those quoting scripture are using it as a lamp to see these actions in their true light. While we cannot condemn this boy's soul, we may judge the actions of the adults so long as we expect to be judged by the same set of rules.
72 posted on 12/21/2001 12:21:18 PM PST by Christian B
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To: FormerLib
I didn't say he was a libertarian. For all I know, he's a Roman Catholic. But he was going to die and he didn't have long to live and he was asking for sex with "a woman". Seems unlikey he was thinking about something long term, but you never now.
73 posted on 12/21/2001 12:22:06 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Christian B
I'm not sure I've met a Christian that apologizes for his sins before they happen (i.e. I'm sorry I'm going to blaspheme tomorrow. I'm sorry I'm going to rob an old lady tomorrow). I think you're supposed to recognize that sin is wrong, and not do it.

I'd disagree with you on this -- I rarely sin "by accident" myself. I think that sin requires mens rea like any other crime.

However, that's immaterial. A christian who sins willfully still sins. He will still be forgiven if he repents.
74 posted on 12/21/2001 12:22:07 PM PST by WindMinstrel
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To: FormerLib
Ezekiel 16:2

The word used in the passage is TAZNUTH.

It is defined (as is PORNOS in the Greek) as "unlawful sex."

So, that verse doesn't get us there.

We still need to know what makes it "unlawful."

75 posted on 12/21/2001 12:22:10 PM PST by backup
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To: LiveFree2000
What would this dicussion thread look like if it had been a 15 year-old girl? Or a 13 year-old girl?
76 posted on 12/21/2001 12:22:20 PM PST by beGlad
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To: angelo
OWK, I'd be interested in your opinion of this.

How about mine, until he gets here?

I'm a serious Christian. I'm a worship leader, I've led evangelism-oriented ministries, I've known the Lord for 25 years.

People DO NOT go to Hell because of what they do - they go because of what they are, unregenerate, fallen human beings. We are ALL born that way, and if we don't meet the Lord in a saving relationship through Jesus Christ, we WILL wind up in Hell.

In my opinion, one of the primary reasons that sex is supposed to be between man and wife is because of all the problems that result otherwise. There are bonds that form, etc., that are designed to be FOR LIFE when we have sex with another human being. That's how a loving Father designed it to work.

This young man, short of a miracle, had no future on this earth where the problems I mention above would happen to him. His life was about to end.

While I *do* believe that sex belongs inside marriage, I also know that we ALL have a very hard time being perfect. I don't know if this boy was saved or not - I would guess not. I don't think that we, as Christians, can hold non-Christians to the same standards that the Bible prescribes for us. It just doesn't work. And that being said, I'd be in favor, after a long talk with him to see if he knew the Lord or not, of letting him have his wish. If he WAS a Christian, I would feel otherwise - I'd remind him that his life wasn't ending, and that it would be better for him to stay pure, for the purpose of his relationship with God being as "right" as we can possibly make it. Which really isn't very "right" for any of us :)

So that's what I think :)

77 posted on 12/21/2001 12:23:06 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Lysander
You are joking arn't you?

You're not suggesting that you're... *gasp*...
"operating" without a state license, are you?

79 posted on 12/21/2001 12:23:36 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: beGlad
What would this dicussion thread look like if it had been a 15 year-old girl? Or a 13 year-old girl?

We wouldn't be having one.

For, as everyone knows, a girl of ANY age and, for the most part, ANY appearance can find someone to have sex with her within five minutes.

80 posted on 12/21/2001 12:24:18 PM PST by backup
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