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To: LaineyDee
Do you sit in one place ...afraid to move forward for fear that you'll miss God's Will or plan for you? Or do you move forward with the desire He's put upon your heart...asking that He close the doors that need to be shut and open the ones that need to be open... so that you'll keep on track?

I am not "judging anyones heart..but proverbs say "Iron sharpen Iron".Sometime a discussion like this makes everyone consider God or His word in a new way. This is an "in family discussion"

You really didn't answer my question..If God has to answer a prayer of faith to confirm His presence and love who is in charge? God or his creation? Who is really God in this situation?

Scripture says we are to wait on the Lord, and only move forward when he tells us to.That is not a lack of "faith " it is obedience to Him and His will. I need to check if the "desire in my heart" is God's or mine. Scripture says the heart is deceitful above all things.

Sometimes God says no because what we ask is not His will or plan. The danger in only believe affirmative answers are "signs" is that we can miss God or fail to glorify Him for His plans

Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, "plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.

Jeremiah is called the weeping prophet..God knew the plans..and God used the man and gave him a name that we would still speak today. But I doubt that Jeremiah felt that God was answering all his prayers at the time. sometimes we only see Gods will in retrospect!

473 posted on 01/01/2002 9:54:24 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Sometimes God says no because what we ask is not His will or plan. The danger in only believe affirmative answers are "signs" is that we can miss God or fail to glorify Him for His plans.

I agree with that statement. Sometimes God's answers are a resounding NO! However, provision is His will and IS what He has ALREADY provided for us. We must BY FAITH accept that He has already done so ( as He has said He has ).

Phillipians tells us that He will supply ALL of our NEEDS according to His riches in Glory. Lainy was pointing out that He had supplied ALL of her NEEDS not her wants or desires. Had she asked, believing ( FAITH ), and Had He NOT answered her prayers in the affirmative His word would have been a lie.

Psalms 37:4 tells us that if we delight ( 'anag meaning to be soft towards )in the Lord He will give us the desires ( mish'ala meaning the petitions )of our heart. 37:5 further tells us to "Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring [it] to pass". We must commit our way unto His and TRUST that He will do what He has said ) and He will, not may, but will bring it to pass. Mind you, not the desires of our flesh but our hearts. There is a difference. I may desire a million dollars but God may know that I would waste it or that it would become my idol. However, if I desired in my heart to further His ministries and to use it to glorify His kingdom ( and I mean truly in my heart desired it for this purpose ) He would be faithful to supply it to me. But the one thing people overlook is the part about committing to our way unto Him. We must act for Him to react. Only God knows my true intent and if it IS according to His will.

480 posted on 01/01/2002 11:07:28 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: RnMomof7;cva66snipe;LaineyDee
Sometimes God says no because what we ask is not His will or plan. The danger in only believe affirmative answers are "signs" is that we can miss God or fail to glorify Him for His plans

This is true. Cva66snipe and I had a discussion about God's will in healing, that if some people aren't healed, some people say it's the person's lack of faith why they weren't healed, rather than God's will. As an example, Paul prayed that God would heal him (the thorn in the flesh of which he spoke), yet it never happened. Can we then say that it was because Paul lacked the faith for God's healing? No. There was a purpose God allowed Paul to continue to have this thorn in his flesh, unbeknownst to Paul or us. Sometimes God's answer isn't "no," but it might be His will for us to "wait." Why? I would dare to God will pick the time for when He will receive the most glory from the healing or when it would have the most impact on someone's life (perhaps other than the one healed).

481 posted on 01/01/2002 11:10:54 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: RnMomof7
Please reread my post. I did answer your questions..but maybe not in the way you'd have liked? The way you phrased your post...certainly appeared as though you were questioning my relationship with the Lord...as well as my prayer life, No?

As far as the reference to iron sharpening iron, the correct passage reads: "Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend."

Were you being my "friend" by lifting me up and encouraging me in the Lord... or looking for a way to tear me apart...doctrinally speaking, that is?

Scripture says we are to wait on the Lord, and only move forward when he tells us to.

Reference please? "Wait" also means to "Trust" or "Hope". What is the context and scripture you are referring to?

I need to check if the "desire in my heart" is God's or mine. Scripture says the heart is deceitful above all things.

I ask the Lord to search my heart and show me what displeases Him...so that I can remove it, repent of it.. or work through it.. with the help of His Holy Spirit.

Sometimes God says no because what we ask is not His will or plan. The danger in only believe affirmative answers are "signs" is that we can miss God or fail to glorify Him for His plans

Please reread my post and show me where you think I implied I adhered to this belief system with anything that I stated...k?

Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, "plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.

Jeremiah 29:11

And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter's vessel, that cannot be made whole again: and they shall bury them in Tophet, till there be no place to bury.

Ummmm.....I think you posted the wrong scripture?

Anyway...this is exactly why I use a prayer journal. I go back to see in "retrospect" what prayers have been answered. Alot.....or should I say MOST are answered in ways I'm not always looking for...or expect them to be answered. They are still answered....nonetheless and He still gets ALL the Glory. It gives me great pleasure to use that journal to praise Him with... to honor Him for all the things He's done in my life.

Let's get back to topic now...shall we?

485 posted on 01/01/2002 12:08:46 PM PST by LaineyDee
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