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To: ProudAmericanConservative
That's pretty simple for me. I see a penis. Fortunately, I'm also sexually attracted to (some) females so I'm certainly male.

However, there are those born with both sets of equipment and I'm sure they'd find it a little more difficult to determine which gender they are. I'm guessing here, but I imagine that most of those people would align themselves more with whichever gender they hold a weaker sexual attraction for.

Then you've got the people who you think "it should be obvious," the only problem with your assertion is that it either wasn't obvious to that person or it was obvious but not because of physical characteristics but rather emotional and psychological ones.

We were all the same gender when we started out and the only difference is that some of us have a Y chromosome and some of us don't. But you know something, there are rare occasions where someone will be born as a female even though they have a Y chromosome and there are even rarer occasions when a those without a Y will be born resembling a male. There are also occasional male calico cats, but they are always sterile. The problem is that the whole system is imperfect. Whenever there's an imperfect system it leads to questions of what's "obvious" and what isn't.

42 posted on 12/19/2001 10:15:36 AM PST by Equality 7-2521
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To: Equality 7-2521
So every cause has an effect.
What effect brought your little chromosome snafu to be?
And please, will you people please stop comparing humans to animals in an attempt to legitimize your case.
44 posted on 12/19/2001 10:24:09 AM PST by jla
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To: Equality 7-2521
We were all the same gender when we started out and the only difference is that some of us have a Y chromosome and some of us don't.

Many a cake has been ruined in the mix.

107 posted on 12/19/2001 12:40:58 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Equality 7-2521
"We were all the same gender when we started out and the only difference is that some of us have a Y chromosome and some of us don't. But you know something, there are rare occasions where someone will be born as a female even though they have a Y chromosome and there are even rarer occasions when a those without a Y will be born resembling a male. There are also occasional male calico cats, but they are always sterile. The problem is that the whole system is imperfect. Whenever there's an imperfect system it leads to questions of what's "obvious" and what isn't. I really dont think that this is that difficult, If one has a penis, one is a male. If one has a vagina and clitoris, one is a female. Can we not even state this as fact anymore???
146 posted on 12/19/2001 8:33:48 PM PST by ProudAmericanConservative
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