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Girls to Guys -- It's on the Rise
San Francisco Examiner ^ | 12/19/01 | Tanya Pampalone

Posted on 12/19/2001 8:58:59 AM PST by medlarebil

At his brother's wedding, the photographer put Marcus Rene Van with the men in the family and his sister screamed, "That's my sister."

Technically -- and biologically -- she's right. But two years ago, the 25-year-old spoken word artist with a tiny goatee swapped genders and went from she to he.

Van is one of a rising number of young women who are opting to live their lives as men -- a trend on the rise in San Francisco's lesbian community.

Business is booming for doctors specializing in chest surgery, clinics that provide hormone treatment and psychologists who offer gender therapy, with one popular surgeon completing twice as many surgeries as he did five years ago.

When Van -- who lives as a man without the help of hormones or surgery -- made the switch, it wasn't a popular thing to do. Now, he said, he's just another trans man living in The City.

Access to transsexual procedures is helping many be true to their chosen gender. But is easy access to hormones and the deluge of information about transsexuality helping those in need, or is it just plain hip right now to be a boy?

"I think (some young) people are going to end up regretting what they have done," Van said of those who might be too quick to take hormones without considering the effects. "If you take hormones for a couple of years, there is no turning back."

Easy access

Dimensions, the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender youth clinic in the Castro-Mission Health Center, is where many trans men have been coming since the doors opened three and a half years ago.

The clinic offers hormone treatment and has at least 25 female to male (FTM) transsexual clients who are on testosterone, according to clinic coordinator Laurie Lenrow.

Before a patient is permitted to take the hormones, they (or their guardians, if they are underage) are required to sign a consent form that outlines the permanent damage testosterone can do. Hair loss, beard and mustache growth, deepening of the voice, increased body hair and enlargement of the clitoris are irreversible, and the risk of cancer and diabetes is increased.

The clinicians here, like many who work with the transsexual community, do not closely adhere to what they consider conservative international standards of care for transsexuals, the Harry Benjamin Standard. The guidelines suggest three months of psychiatric treatment for those wanting to take hormones.

But patients at Dimensions do not have to undergo therapy and most are able to start hormone treatment within five weeks of their initial visit, following lab tests and a staff review of the individual case.

Lenrow compares taking testosterone to birth control pills, and points out there are many who don't take hormones or get operations. Besides, she said, most of their clients have been considering transition since they were teenagers and are usually "well-prepared" to make the decision.

Making history

Barely old enough to buy a drink, Chris Tavelli, 21, got chest surgery to remove his breasts in March and began taking testosterone in May.

He said he has known that his gender was wrong for as long as he remembers, but still admits that he made his decision at a young age, even though his family wanted him to wait.

But he doesn't think he'll have any regrets.

"Anything is possible, but I highly doubt I will ever regret it," he said. "You don't get to this decision on the whim. I'm just not a girl."

Still, many in the lesbian community are struggling to understand why so many young women want to change genders. While some view it as betrayal, others are just confused.

Bonnie Barrett, 33, graphic designer, is one of the confused. Barrett has been mistaken for a boy all her life.

"I'm not that old-fashioned," she said. "But (taking hormones) is a radical decision that I think is taken very lightly. What's wrong with just going to gym? What's wrong with just being butch?"

Why not just be a butch lesbian is a question that Van and Tavelli have all been asked a million times.

"It didn't fit," Van said simply. "I wanted to be myself, and myself is male."

Under the knife

A graceful metal robot with big red lips and voluminous breasts greets Michael Brownstein's clientele in his Potrero Hill loft medical office.

The gray-haired plastic surgeon has been doing sexual reassignment surgery in The City for more than 20 years. He has done hundreds of mastectomies and metoidioplasties -- the transformation of external female genitals into male (see inset) -- and business is booming.

Brownstein is doing twice as many surgeries as he did five years ago for clients who are mainly women in their 20s and 30s and want a mastectomy, or top surgery -- the more common of the two procedures that he does.

But he maintains that having surgery -- or even changing genders -- is not a fad.

"It's not a trendy thing," he said. "It's not like a rave party. This is a real condition."

Brownstein said the reason for the increase in procedures is that there is more acceptance of transsexuals, and more access to information via the Internet.

As chairman of the ethics committee for the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association, he makes certain that his clients are ready to make the decision for surgery. But Brownstein doesn't require a letter from a therapist in every case, as is required in the guidelines.

"Someone who is 40 and has lived as a male for 20 years successfully, I wouldn't have much reservation," he said. "But a 22-year-old doesn't have that same degree of experience."

Getting equipped

Riley Richard is considering his options.

The 26-year-old with a sweet round face and tattoos running up his arm is going to therapy to figure out if hormones are the right treatment for him.

A few months ago, Richard decided to switch genders and went from she to he. Inside, Richard is all man.

"I'm a boy and I always have been," he said behind black-rimmed glasses and a ski cap pulled around his face. "I just don't have the biological equipment."

Richard has made the choice to go by "he" in a workplace that is accepting of his new gender, even though he was blessed otherwise.

Pronouns are important at Good Vibrations, where Richard works as a warehouse clerk. Sometimes it's the only word that gives away a person's gender in the sex toy distribution company where up to 15 percent of the employees are transsexuals -- the majority of whom are female to males transsexuals in their 20s and 30s.

But while Richard contemplates taking hormones, chest surgery is something he plans to do as soon as he can save the money.

Van doesn't plan to have surgery, top or otherwise.

"I want to keep my body intact," he said. "But there are things I can't do. I can't wear a tank top, I can't walk into a men's locker room."

But taking testosterone would change some of that. It would stop his periods, put more hair on his face, move fat off his hips and into his abdomen. It would make his bones bigger, his voice lower. With so many friends taking hormones, it's something Van has been contemplating.

"I think about it every day," he said.

E-mail Tanya Pampalone at tpampalone@sfexaminer.com


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To: wideawake
You can't cure mental illness with surgery.

True. How sad. And a sad commentary on a "tolerant" society that allows mentally ill people to find doctors who will mutilate them for a buck.

241 posted on 12/20/2001 11:13:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: ArGee
You are wrong, that's the show you are talking about, the two people you are talking about are also a couple.
242 posted on 12/20/2001 11:15:22 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: ArGee
That is the worst circular logic I have ever heard of.
243 posted on 12/20/2001 11:18:07 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
**So, you would prefer to believe the leftist media and Jerry Springer.**

You have as great a talent for twisting words as you do bending genders. Obviously, if this tidbit came from Jerry Springer or the leftist media it would be *disinformation* for the purpose of trying to silence the right. It would carry as much weight as a Bill Clinton denial.

And I expect whatever documentation you unearth to verify the "90%" part too.

244 posted on 12/20/2001 11:20:14 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You are wrong, that's the show you are talking about, the two people you are talking about are also a couple.

Dude! First, I am absolutely not wrong about not having cable. I think I could be considered a reliable source on that topic.

Also, I know I didn't see the iguana-man on TV. I read about the iguana-man in an article. I saw the puma-man on TV.

Maybe I saw a news magazine show that used an excerpt from the Ripley show, but I didn't see anything on TBS.

Shalom.

245 posted on 12/20/2001 11:32:10 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Tall_Texan
It may take me a while, but I will try my best to find them. After all it has been six months since I read them, finding them again is going to be a little difficult, because I don't put them in my favorites folder.
246 posted on 12/20/2001 11:32:36 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: All
Don't know if anyone has pointed it out yet, but there is a natural name for the surgical procedure associated with this transformation. It is to be called an "Addadictomy"
247 posted on 12/20/2001 11:34:27 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Paul C. Jesup
That is the worst circular logic I have ever heard of.

Whatever it was, it wasn't circular.

The support that commandments have to do with heart issues (like not misusing sex) comes from the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5-7. The support for marriage being only between a man and a woman comes from Genesis and 2:24 and Matthew 19:4.

Since my source isn't my conclusion and my conclusion isn't my source that isn't circular reasoning.

First you know more about my house than I do, then you re-define logical concepts.

That's not the best way to get your viewpoint accepted.

Shalom.

248 posted on 12/20/2001 11:35:22 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
That is possible.
249 posted on 12/20/2001 11:36:28 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
XX and XY chomosome combinations are not as important as to which gender the baby . . . devolops into . . . .

. . . . .

During the early stages of devolopment in the womb, a XY chomosome brain experiences what is called a testosterone wash, not if there is not enough testosterone administered at this time in devolopment, the XY chomosome brain will default to a female brain. Also, if a XX chomosome brain experiences a testosterone wash, there is a that it will devolop into a male brain.

. . . . .

Later in the XY chomosome fetal devolopment, the XY chomosome body requires a constant supply and high amounts of testosterone to devolop in a male body. If the XY chomesome boby does not get a constant supply of testosterone or not enough of testosterone, the XY chomosome sexual organs and sexual genitals will begin to revert back to female sexual organs and genitals. Also, if a XX chomosome begins to recieve testoster from the womb, then there is a chance that the XX chomosome will begin to devolop male sexual organs and male sexual genitals.

This is the strongest evidence as to what causes physical gender deformities, including a person with XX chomosomes to have a penis and a person with XY chomosome to has a vagina.

I have heard all that before, and it does not impress me.

The Y chromosome makes you a male and not having the Y makes you female.

That a person's body can be modified by altering hormone levels does not change the underlying genetic makeup of that person.

Here's the thing: Sex developed as a means to enhance adaptation of a species to a changing environment.

Sex did not develop to make penises or vaginas, such structures are secondary.

I do not care what the appearance of a person is--whether the person seems to have a penis or vagina--I care what the person's genes are all about.

Those XX's with so-called penises and those XY's with so-called vaginas, tell me: can the XX's testes (if XX's ever have testes) produce sperm and impregnate a woman? Can the XY's ovaries (if XY's ever have ovaries) produce an egg that can be fertilized?

And if someone who has XX, for example, feels like she has the mind of a man trapped inside a woman's body--can any amount of surgery equip that woman with a male reproductive system producing sperm that bears the person's own X and Y chromosomes?

Sperm that is capable of participating in the continued development of the sexual species?

I doubt such mutations are fertile, and were they fertile, they could no produce sperm with the person's Y chromosomes because they have no Y chrosmosomes. A real man's sperm can contain Y chromosomes, and hence be a real player in evolution--which is why sex exists to begin with.

250 posted on 12/20/2001 11:36:54 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Paul C. Jesup
And as a man myself, when I yearn for something soft, that something soft better be made of XX's--inside and out.
251 posted on 12/20/2001 11:42:21 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: ArGee
What you are saying is that commandment forbids sex outside of marriage. But that is not what it says. It just forbids a married person from having sex with anyone other than their spouse.

If you don't realize that, then you need to go back and reread that commandment as many times as it takes for you understand what it truly says.

252 posted on 12/20/2001 11:42:50 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Age of Reason
If you don't believe me. Go do some medical reseach yourself. You'll find that I am right.
253 posted on 12/20/2001 11:45:45 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Equality 7-2521
They now give them a handfull of pills and send them home.IMHO. My opinion is based on personal observations since my wife worked in this business.
254 posted on 12/20/2001 11:53:44 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Also, the leftist liberal homosexual groups have only paid a token responce, lip service towards transsexuals. The leftist liberal homosexual groups don't really like transsexuals either.

You have made your point again! Who does? Both sides of the isle find the topic disgusting. The conservatives pehaps find it amusing as well, since they generally have a better sense of humor. I would not make the leap to acceptance since they are laughing at transgender folks, not with them!

255 posted on 12/20/2001 12:02:16 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Paul C. Jesup
If you don't realize that, then you need to go back and reread that commandment as many times as it takes for you understand what it truly says.

Well, I disagree on what I need to do. I don't just read one verse or another when I read the Bible. I read the whole thing regularly. And, to understand any part you need to understand the whole.

However, according to my source (and I am not a Hebrew scholar) the commandment speaks to breaking wedlock. If you are not wed and have sex, then you are breaking wedlock with an unknown future spouse.

Most importantly, however, G-d's commands (all 613 of them) speak to heart issues, not circumstantial issues. You are an adulterer if you have sex with other than your wife and for a reason other than to create a union with your wife. If you don't have a wife yet, you are certainly having sex with a woman for a reason other than to create a union with her, and you are violating G-d's law.

Shalom.

256 posted on 12/20/2001 12:23:35 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
However, according to my source (and I am not a Hebrew scholar) the commandment speaks to breaking wedlock. If you are not wed and have sex, then you are breaking wedlock with an unknown future spouse.

You don't even realize how irrational your above statement is. You statment is basically, that people are married, before they are married, and that make no sense at all.

257 posted on 12/20/2001 12:40:17 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: wirestripper
But don't you find that the least bit ironic?
258 posted on 12/20/2001 12:41:27 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You don't even realize how irrational your above statement is. You statment is basically, that people are married, before they are married, and that make no sense at all.

I'm sorry it wasn't clear to you. It is still clear to me. I did not say that people are married before they are married. I said that people are married except when they aren't.

Shalom.

259 posted on 12/20/2001 12:47:34 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Nope, that is exactly what you ment by your previous statement.
260 posted on 12/20/2001 12:51:15 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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