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Girls to Guys -- It's on the Rise
San Francisco Examiner ^ | 12/19/01 | Tanya Pampalone

Posted on 12/19/2001 8:58:59 AM PST by medlarebil

At his brother's wedding, the photographer put Marcus Rene Van with the men in the family and his sister screamed, "That's my sister."

Technically -- and biologically -- she's right. But two years ago, the 25-year-old spoken word artist with a tiny goatee swapped genders and went from she to he.

Van is one of a rising number of young women who are opting to live their lives as men -- a trend on the rise in San Francisco's lesbian community.

Business is booming for doctors specializing in chest surgery, clinics that provide hormone treatment and psychologists who offer gender therapy, with one popular surgeon completing twice as many surgeries as he did five years ago.

When Van -- who lives as a man without the help of hormones or surgery -- made the switch, it wasn't a popular thing to do. Now, he said, he's just another trans man living in The City.

Access to transsexual procedures is helping many be true to their chosen gender. But is easy access to hormones and the deluge of information about transsexuality helping those in need, or is it just plain hip right now to be a boy?

"I think (some young) people are going to end up regretting what they have done," Van said of those who might be too quick to take hormones without considering the effects. "If you take hormones for a couple of years, there is no turning back."

Easy access

Dimensions, the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender youth clinic in the Castro-Mission Health Center, is where many trans men have been coming since the doors opened three and a half years ago.

The clinic offers hormone treatment and has at least 25 female to male (FTM) transsexual clients who are on testosterone, according to clinic coordinator Laurie Lenrow.

Before a patient is permitted to take the hormones, they (or their guardians, if they are underage) are required to sign a consent form that outlines the permanent damage testosterone can do. Hair loss, beard and mustache growth, deepening of the voice, increased body hair and enlargement of the clitoris are irreversible, and the risk of cancer and diabetes is increased.

The clinicians here, like many who work with the transsexual community, do not closely adhere to what they consider conservative international standards of care for transsexuals, the Harry Benjamin Standard. The guidelines suggest three months of psychiatric treatment for those wanting to take hormones.

But patients at Dimensions do not have to undergo therapy and most are able to start hormone treatment within five weeks of their initial visit, following lab tests and a staff review of the individual case.

Lenrow compares taking testosterone to birth control pills, and points out there are many who don't take hormones or get operations. Besides, she said, most of their clients have been considering transition since they were teenagers and are usually "well-prepared" to make the decision.

Making history

Barely old enough to buy a drink, Chris Tavelli, 21, got chest surgery to remove his breasts in March and began taking testosterone in May.

He said he has known that his gender was wrong for as long as he remembers, but still admits that he made his decision at a young age, even though his family wanted him to wait.

But he doesn't think he'll have any regrets.

"Anything is possible, but I highly doubt I will ever regret it," he said. "You don't get to this decision on the whim. I'm just not a girl."

Still, many in the lesbian community are struggling to understand why so many young women want to change genders. While some view it as betrayal, others are just confused.

Bonnie Barrett, 33, graphic designer, is one of the confused. Barrett has been mistaken for a boy all her life.

"I'm not that old-fashioned," she said. "But (taking hormones) is a radical decision that I think is taken very lightly. What's wrong with just going to gym? What's wrong with just being butch?"

Why not just be a butch lesbian is a question that Van and Tavelli have all been asked a million times.

"It didn't fit," Van said simply. "I wanted to be myself, and myself is male."

Under the knife

A graceful metal robot with big red lips and voluminous breasts greets Michael Brownstein's clientele in his Potrero Hill loft medical office.

The gray-haired plastic surgeon has been doing sexual reassignment surgery in The City for more than 20 years. He has done hundreds of mastectomies and metoidioplasties -- the transformation of external female genitals into male (see inset) -- and business is booming.

Brownstein is doing twice as many surgeries as he did five years ago for clients who are mainly women in their 20s and 30s and want a mastectomy, or top surgery -- the more common of the two procedures that he does.

But he maintains that having surgery -- or even changing genders -- is not a fad.

"It's not a trendy thing," he said. "It's not like a rave party. This is a real condition."

Brownstein said the reason for the increase in procedures is that there is more acceptance of transsexuals, and more access to information via the Internet.

As chairman of the ethics committee for the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association, he makes certain that his clients are ready to make the decision for surgery. But Brownstein doesn't require a letter from a therapist in every case, as is required in the guidelines.

"Someone who is 40 and has lived as a male for 20 years successfully, I wouldn't have much reservation," he said. "But a 22-year-old doesn't have that same degree of experience."

Getting equipped

Riley Richard is considering his options.

The 26-year-old with a sweet round face and tattoos running up his arm is going to therapy to figure out if hormones are the right treatment for him.

A few months ago, Richard decided to switch genders and went from she to he. Inside, Richard is all man.

"I'm a boy and I always have been," he said behind black-rimmed glasses and a ski cap pulled around his face. "I just don't have the biological equipment."

Richard has made the choice to go by "he" in a workplace that is accepting of his new gender, even though he was blessed otherwise.

Pronouns are important at Good Vibrations, where Richard works as a warehouse clerk. Sometimes it's the only word that gives away a person's gender in the sex toy distribution company where up to 15 percent of the employees are transsexuals -- the majority of whom are female to males transsexuals in their 20s and 30s.

But while Richard contemplates taking hormones, chest surgery is something he plans to do as soon as he can save the money.

Van doesn't plan to have surgery, top or otherwise.

"I want to keep my body intact," he said. "But there are things I can't do. I can't wear a tank top, I can't walk into a men's locker room."

But taking testosterone would change some of that. It would stop his periods, put more hair on his face, move fat off his hips and into his abdomen. It would make his bones bigger, his voice lower. With so many friends taking hormones, it's something Van has been contemplating.

"I think about it every day," he said.

E-mail Tanya Pampalone at tpampalone@sfexaminer.com


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To: ProudAmericanConservative
Actually, I heard some of these people had an androgynous personality.

Out of a population of six billion there are just some people in the world that don't fit your view of either male or female.

161 posted on 12/19/2001 10:11:51 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: ProudAmericanConservative
Gender has nothing to do with how you feel about it, it just is, same as race. I can wake up tomorrow and decide to call myself black, but im white and the only person that will recognize me as black is myself.

The human mind is far more complex than the body it is housed in.

By your views, a person is no more than the sum of the parts of that person.

And you are wrong.

162 posted on 12/19/2001 10:16:25 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Psycho-babble-BS-Leftist Crap! Oh! I forgot tree huggin!
163 posted on 12/19/2001 10:23:40 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Psycho-babble-BS-Leftist Crap! Oh! I forgot tree huggin!

I guess that you don't even know where liberals stand on the nature versus nurture arguement.

If you did, you would realize that it is you who are the tree huggin leftist on this subject.

164 posted on 12/19/2001 10:29:56 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You have already stated your argument on that point more than once. You are dead wrong on all counts. I am afraid you need to go back to conservative school for a refresher.
165 posted on 12/19/2001 10:37:21 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: medlarebil
"Confusing" to say the least! It's not fair when the folks who are confused insist on further confusing those of us who'd rather not know in the first place!

I understand that some women (note I said **some**) women want to be men and that some women want so badly to be men that they are willing to subject themselves to risky surgery and riskier hormone treatments in order to be men.

The puzzling question is why? Often the gays reaffirm their lifestyle by asking who would want to be gay if they truly had a choice, what with the discrimination, the beatings, the immuno-deficiency, why, nobody would choose such a thing which must mean they were "born that way" and had no choice at all.

So I ask, who would want to be a man, what with the discrimination, the humiliations, the constant dissing in the media, the military conscripton and being the person who has to put his ass on the line every time someone threatens your property or loved ones? Surely, the only way I would choose such a lifestyle is if I were "born that way". You know, I'll bet it's genetic!

BTW, since your nick is "liberaldem" in reverse, does this mean you are secretly one or does it mean you're the opposite of one?

166 posted on 12/19/2001 10:49:43 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Paul C. Jesup
By the way, what in the heck is nature vs. nurture! I thought it was the debate over breast feeding. LOL! Trans gender ajustment as you people put it is the most sickening thing I've heard of in my lifetime. Disgusting. Morbid. Anti-human sicko crap.

BARF!

167 posted on 12/19/2001 10:51:39 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Now I'm prett much a die hard conservative...

Just a thought. Ever read about Edgar Cayce?

Suppose there is something to re-incarnation?

Suppose you lived in the last few lives as one gender and then were born to the other gender?

Talk about confusion!

168 posted on 12/19/2001 10:51:56 PM PST by Mogger
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To: wirestripper
ajustment=adjustment Need to make sure everything is in the right place.
169 posted on 12/19/2001 10:55:39 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"Actually, I heard some of these people had an androgynous personality." Personality has nothing to do with physical sexual characteristics!!!!! You might like to do feminine things, but that does not make you a female!! What the Hell are you babbling about??
170 posted on 12/19/2001 10:56:52 PM PST by ProudAmericanConservative
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To: Dimensio
Once again, what does this have to do with XX males or XY females? I'm not talking about people who identify as the opposite gender, I'm talking about people whose unaltered genitals don't match their chromosomes.

A person with XX chromosomes is female--no matter what she "looks" like.

And a person with XY chromosomes, is a male, no matter what he "looks" like.

Providing, of course, we are speaking of genuine X and genuine Y chromosomes, and not some freaky mutated X that has lost a leg through some damage or other, and so looks like a Y.

If a person has, for example, XX chromosomes and yet has what "appears" to be a male sex organ because of some weird mutation or birth defect or other mutilation, then I sure wouldn't blame her for wanting her body to better express her true sex, as determined by her female, XX, chormosomes.

But if someone who is XY and has a pensis--i.e., is a normal male--wants to make his body resemble that of a woman's by having a "surgeon" cut him and stitch him into a different shape--that guy remains a guy and I will refer to him as a he.

Likewise, the XX person is a woman is a woman is a woman.

And should there be something that does not fit either of the two above categories, then it is not male and it is not female: It's a third sex or it's sexless.

Regarding a "functioning penis", I heard not long ago of a male to female to male transexual. Basically he was either disfigured or born with some defect that left his male organs damaged in some form, so a doctor preformed gender reassignment surgery on him when he was an infant and his parents raised him as a female (the doctor, IIRC, wrote a book on the "success" of it all). All his life he never identified well as a female and it wasn't until he was an adult that he discovered what really happened. He since had a second surgery to restore his male appearance to match his identity, complete with pump-action penis (yes, the term makes me snicker too). He has since married, though I don't know (and do doubt) whether he is able to father children of his own. Since his penis is arguably not "fully functional", is he not a man even though he was born male, obtained surgery to reestablish himself as male and intends to live as a male?

I seem to remember the case you're citing as one where the fellow was a victim of a botched circumcision; the doctors then compounded that error by advising the parents that the kid would have emotional problems over his stunted organ, and so would be better-off as a "girl"--he wasn't: he wasn't made a real girl and he wasn't better-off; because he had the male, Y, chromosome.

171 posted on 12/19/2001 10:58:25 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You are bizarre! So what you are saying is that, I as a white male may call myself black, and as long as I think I am black, then I am?? Thats Ludicrous...... (although this may have advantages, I'm married to Ann Coulter, I'm married to Ann Coulter, I'm married to Ann Coulter.....)
172 posted on 12/19/2001 10:59:52 PM PST by ProudAmericanConservative
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To: Mogger
People like Edgar have nothing to contribute to society and therefore indulge in imaginative mind games of what if. They are already confused. Too bad we got rid of mental hospitals and now have to put up with all these people running around loose.(because they are only different?)
173 posted on 12/19/2001 11:03:02 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Paul C. Jesup
The human mind is far more complex than the body it is housed in. .

You know, you may have a point there.

All day I've been feeling like a baboon trapped in a human body.

I think I'll find a doctor who will transplant hair all over my face, implant a silicone snout in my face complete with plastic fangs, and fashsion a tail from tissues cut from my thighs.

Then I shall truly be a baboon, and can be denied my civil rights and kept in a zoo.

Oh joy! Oh, fulfillment!

174 posted on 12/19/2001 11:05:19 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: wirestripper
You want to see something really crazy! The House is still in session, trying to pass the stimulus bill!
175 posted on 12/19/2001 11:06:29 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Age of Reason
**Do we operate on the body?

Or do we operate on the brain?**

What if the tranny believes he/she/it should have been born a chicken? Should we perform surgery to give him/her/it a crop, a vent and wings? Maybe we could transplant some DNA and hope it takes! After all, if **thinking** you are a certain creature makes it so, I think I'd like to be a giraffe.

176 posted on 12/19/2001 11:07:19 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan
How would you get into your Toyota?
177 posted on 12/19/2001 11:09:23 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Duck. But that would require *more* surgery...
178 posted on 12/19/2001 11:12:13 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan
Quack!........LOL!
179 posted on 12/19/2001 11:13:20 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Oh my God. Charlie Rangel is trying to claim he is fiscally responsible and the republicans are wastefull and iresponsible............HA!
180 posted on 12/19/2001 11:21:01 PM PST by Cold Heat
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