Girls to Guys -- It's on the Rise

San Francisco Examiner ^ | 12/19/01 | Tanya Pampalone

[patent]

>>>>You can't cure mental illness with surgery.

Nor spiritual death with a worldy knife.

[Equality 7-2521]

I don't blame god. I'm saying that you should blame god.

[Equality 7-2521]

I couldn't agree more.

[Equality 7-2521]

G-d did create a perfect system... We broke it.

How does one go about breaking something that is perfect?

[Equality 7-2521]

Will she have had a choice in the matter? Yes.

Don't tell that to the homocentrists (humans-elitists not gay-elitists) on the anti-animal threads. According to them, animals act strictly on either instinct or reactions to stimuli and do not make choices.

[Equality 7-2521]

Which one of those 10 commandments says "Thou shalt not alter thine gender"?

[Equality 7-2521]

Thank you.

When I'm done on here, I think I'm going to try reasoning with my dog.

[discostu]

"Spoken word artists" are, for the most part, comedians with dellusions of grandeur. They usually do stuff similar to the comedic anecdotes that made Bill Cosby rich, only they use swear words and usually suck.

[independentmind]

Is there any testing done on candidates for transexual surgery to determine if what you have described in your #119 occurred? Or does the doctor pretty much do what the patient wants him to do?

[Equality 7-2521]

I wonder if candidates for nose jobs are compared to "normal" people first by their doctor to determine if their nose is outside of the "normal" size and shape prior to the doctor performing that surgery.

[independentmind]

Surely you aren't comparing a sex change operation to a nose job?

[Paul C. Jesup]

Yes and no, it depends on the type of problem.

What most people here don't seem to understand is that there are requirements before a transsexual can have surgery to change their genitials. For two examples of the requirements are that the person must live at least a year in the choosen gender before they can have the surgery and constant conseling by a doctor before hand. And that doctor and another doctor, who has also seen the person has to agree that the person is sane and that the surgery would improve the person's quility of life before the person can have the surgery.

This type of event is not a spur of the moment type of thing.

[Equality 7-2521]

Actually I was.

Okay, how about a boob job?

[Kozak]

You can't cure mental illness with surgery.


I don't know about that. Frontal Lobotomy sure works good on people with impulse control problems....

[independentmind]

How anyone could think that a sex change operation is the same as a nose job is beyond me. I literally don't understand how any adult could think this.

As for cosmetic surgery, I generally don't think it's a good idea unless there is a medical reason. Nose and "boob jobs", however don't alter the essence of who you are, and how you are perceived by others. A sex change operation does.

[independentmind]

. For two examples of the requirements are that the person must live at least a year in the choosen gender before they can have the surgery and constant conseling by a doctor before hand. And that doctor and another doctor, who has also seen the person has to agree that the person is sane and that the surgery would improve the person's quility of life before the person can have the surgery.

Neither one of these conditions would determine if there was a biological basis for the sex change operation based on the conditions you described in #119. Counseling and decisions about sanity and improvements to the quality of life are fairly subjective, particularly when the doctors involved have a financial interest in performing the operation.

[Equality 7-2521]

Nose and "boob jobs", however don't alter the essence of who you are, and how you are perceived by others.

Now that would depend on the magnitude of the nose and boob jobs. I remain unclear on which parts of the body are acceptable to change and which ones would be a violation of something sacred. For instance, is it acceptable for me to shave my head or my face or should I just grow my hair forever as this choice will certainly change how I am perceived by others if not the essence of who I am. Changing my career, however, might change the essence of who I am and I've been known to do that on occasion.

[JMJ333]

Post 102---Hilarious and brilliant and the same time. Are you going to be the president of BRAAD? ;)

[Shackman]

OMG, I read the article title thinking that its the ratio between girls to guys and that itll be easier to get dates, but then...oh man....thats gross...not cool...