Posted on 12/18/2001 5:07:16 PM PST by Map Kernow
Easy. Being an 18-year-old male and giving up front row seats at a Britney Spears concert.
Sure you are, at least by implication. Your position (as defined by your question) boils down to a statement on that there is no Creator. By ruling out same, you lay claim to some superior knowledge as to the actual source of the universe.
My position as not that there is no Creator.
My position is that there is no evidence to support the existence of one.
I've read with interest your comments on this thread and just thought I'd let you in on the secret.
I'm God. yup thats right . I made all this , brought everything into being myself. Your just a part of my story,you only exist in relation to me. I know thats a bit hard to swallow but hey, it's gotta start somewhere , right ?
Easy. Being an 18-year-old male and giving up front row seats at a Britney Spears concert.
That would only hurt for a few weeks or a month or two; being an idiot hurts for life. Ask some of the evolutionists about it.
Don't make me come down there.
Maybe. But that would mean that the universe is non-contingent, i.e., uncaused. And everything about the physical universe that we know tells us that it is contingent because everything in the physical universe depends upon a prior cause.
Cordially,
I don't believe you. Your posts on the topic are not consistent with that position.
Your disbelief is a matter of complete indifference to me.
Interesting way to look at things. If science doesn't explain absolutely everything to your satisfaction, you seem to reject it all, entirely. On the other hand, divinities are unsupported by evidence and they explain nothing at all; yet you claim that they give you the answers to everything.
LOL! I rather expected that response. Nevertheless, your statement of "no evidence" is belied by your posts, and that's something you probably ought to address.
It's pretty familiar territory -- I recognize the statement from the days when I was running away from God.
No, that's not at all what I said, as you well know. Nor do I "reject all science, entirely."
On the other hand, divinities are unsupported by evidence and they explain nothing at all;
Oh, my. That's a completely insupportable statement.
yet you claim that they give you the answers to everything.
Nor do I make that claim.
I make that two gross mischaracterizations and one insupportable statement. Not a single useful thing in that post. Perhaps you should try again.
Unsatifstying, perhaps. But also either necessary or impossible, because a contingent universe that is uncaused is logically contradictory.
If there is total nothingness than there could never be anything. The fact that something, anything, exists means that something must have always existed. Therefore being has to be and is necessary.
But in the Godless universe scenario, the possibility of total nonexistence is a viable option to existence, because in that scenario the universe is accidental and could just as easily not come to be. If the universe could fail to be then it is not a necessary universe. So the question then for the atheist is, how could a contingent state of affairs produce a universe in which being has to be? I do not have a satisfying answer to that.
Cordially,
She was a wonderful Lady.
When I asked her who had made God, she told me that the devil was talking to my mind. I was 5.
That was good. I notice that nobody even attempted to refute it.
Note to Santa Claus: new keyboard
You replied: Oh, my. That's a completely insupportable statement.
In what way is it insupportable? I'm very open-minded to evidence and logical argument.
What archeological study shows the world was created in six days?
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