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To: Grampa Dave
Absolutely. I have posted when those who hate GW 24/7 and are not liberals to blame him for actions like these, YOU CAN'T FIRE OR SHOT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES!)

Uh, excuse me Dave, but do you remember how the Spotted Owl was fraudulently listed under the ESA after twelve consecutive years of Republican presidents? You do remember that GHWB was "The Environmental President" and appointed the people who hired the minions who perpetrated that act?

So what IS the alternative to government management? Do you have one, Dave? I do.

53 posted on 12/17/2001 8:38:21 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
You know that 99% of those working for those departments then and now were of one political party! If you deny that, then all of your theories are bogus!

Who controlled the senate and house during those years? You know that, and should stop skating around this as a scientist who documents with facts!

58 posted on 12/17/2001 8:57:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Carry_Okie
"So what IS the alternative to government management? Do you have one, Dave? I do."

I'm not so sure that you do.

Don't take this as an attack, just a deep question.
I've read the material at your website, but what is lacking, IMO, is anything approaching an empirical analysis to indicate that anything needs to be done to "protect" the environment. - Further, I submit that the overwhelming preponderance of evidence indicates that while it may be ugly, this so-called environmental damage around man's habitation is irrelevant in the big picture.

Our overall impact on this huge planet is nearly feckless, and visibly temporary. - Your example, Santa Cruz County, proves my point well. - In a short period of time much of what man has attempted to build, and change has been erased by natural processes.

I don't want to buy the book, only to find that it is based on a false assumption of need for action. - Can you help me here?

111 posted on 12/17/2001 4:20:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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